~35M shares to cover. Ballpark of 60M shares not taking part in TSLAP. Largely run by people who aren't idiots and would prefer to sell to shorts at $421 rather than the Saudis at $420, and will gladly recall early and / or not vote (on a likely foregone conclusion) if that's what it takes to make more money off their shares.
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~35M shares to cover. Ballpark of 60M shares not taking part in TSLAP. Largely run by people who aren't idiots and would prefer to sell to shorts at $421 rather than the Saudis at $420, and will gladly recall early and / or not vote (on a likely foregone conclusion) if that's what it takes to make more money off their shares.
Bad karma. Don't believe he will. I think he commented previously he doesn't enjoy people suffering, therefore warning to exit.
1m just disappeared @$350.
What he's saying is if they have several months to do it, then no pressure to do it on the same day for all.
There are many of us here who bought b/c of $420 promise as part of their short term strategy.
Many longs here have said they will roll bunch of shares into private, but will sell other buckets b/c they need liquidity. This will be one of the sources for sales at $421 to cover shorts who wait till the last minute, but Ihor is implying they will be exiting gradually and we shouldn't see too many hold on to their positions till the last minute.
Doesn't make sense what Ihor is saying here.
This is the worst case scenario for every short seller out there. A highly likely buyout offer for one of the most shortest stock ever. And, at the same time, an increasing investor base...
Even without a deal, we are just where we were after Q2 numbers: 345$/share and producing roughly 5500 M3 per week with positive cash flow and earnings in reach for every coming quarter.
This is the worst case scenario for every short seller out there. A highly likely buyout offer for one of the most shortest stock ever. And, at the same time, an increasing investor base...
Even without a deal, we are just where we were after Q2 numbers: 345$/share and producing roughly 5500 M3 per week with positive cash flow and earnings in reach for every coming quarter.
bdy0627
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This trading feels like the usual shenanigans. I don't necessarily understand it, but we saw today the usual morning dip, what looked like capping at $354 during the afternoon, and aggressive selling just prior to close. Overall daily volume is pretty average. Typically you would conclude that the market believes there is absolutely no chance this buyout is happening. However, it's TSLA, so there is more to it than that.
The seller could in theory be another short seller. But in this case the net amount of shares short is falling, meaning that on net, some longs are selling.
Menifeer
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Mod: posts about the morals of Saudi Arabia versus other countries belong in this other thread:
Saudi Arabia (out of Market Action)
I'm getting tired of moving them. If they appear here, or in General, I will begin deleting them. In this thread you can talk about potential buyers, and can even mention KSA PIF, that's fine.
I really mean it. --ggr.
Saudi Arabia (out of Market Action)
I'm getting tired of moving them. If they appear here, or in General, I will begin deleting them. In this thread you can talk about potential buyers, and can even mention KSA PIF, that's fine.
I really mean it. --ggr.
bdy0627
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MikeQ
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There are a lot of moving parts which partly explains why those focused on NASDAQ's semi-monthly reports of short interest may be too reliant on that metric in isolation. IMO, trying to discern how the "players" around the notes' arbitraging and hedging are dynamically positioning is impossible--even the terms of the hedges and warrants are confidential. WhaleWisdom used to include Puts, Calls, and CVs (with no dates) positions in its quarterly reporting but not everything but the current quarter seems to be behind a pay wall.
The key to me is being aware of the first seven words in this response.
it’s a joke. everyone has something to say about how incompetent em is, can’t wait for this to go private so all these ‘experts’ shut tf up. agonizingly tired of it.
and today more price action meant to scare everyone. just another pathetic manipulated joke of market action. the more a deal looks imminent, the more resources they throw at striking the fear of god into everyone.
how low does it have to go to get anyone here to sell? i’m not selling. i think a deal will happen.
if a deal doesn’t happen, and elon “loses his credibility” and the stock takesa dump, i’m still not selling. they’re on the verge of crushing it. nobody even knows anything about the model 3 yet. barely anyone has seen or driven it. we know everything about it. we are not ‘common’ in this case. the product is exceptional! so, bring it on.
and today more price action meant to scare everyone. just another pathetic manipulated joke of market action. the more a deal looks imminent, the more resources they throw at striking the fear of god into everyone.
how low does it have to go to get anyone here to sell? i’m not selling. i think a deal will happen.
if a deal doesn’t happen, and elon “loses his credibility” and the stock takesa dump, i’m still not selling. they’re on the verge of crushing it. nobody even knows anything about the model 3 yet. barely anyone has seen or driven it. we know everything about it. we are not ‘common’ in this case. the product is exceptional! so, bring it on.
"Sources" claim both GS and Silverlake state they have not been officially retained.
Just read how many have said here that private is a done deal.
And most think that price will go up anyway after Q3/Q4 results, so likely the same price anyway within the same timeframe as the private deal, so just no so much risk overall for ~6mo and you have time to consider whether to roll into private.
but we know that’s a probably a load of BS..
reuters said they aren’t, nyt says they are - they turn every single thing elon says into a he said she said divorce court spat!
typical manipulative techniques meant to fleece the herd.
exactly, its far from done.
i believe it will end that way though, bc elon knows that is the way forward. to get away from the noisy BS of public trading. it’s become ringling brothers on a daily basis. no reason to try and operate like that. f it, go private. good riddance.
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