FYI - if you dont have the news on... markets are likely freaking out about what Erdogan is about to say
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That wouldn't be possible. The dilutive effect is what contributes to the price drop. It's in the very nature of shorting.
Just an FYI, shorting via buying puts isn't exactly the same thing, since the put-option seller is essentially a long buyer who's trying to earn a premium on his cash, while the put-option buyer is trying to protect his shares from a potential loss in value.
WentOffGrid
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Looks like a real not-a-fake-bankwupcy is going to happen...
Hate giving them clicks but this one is worth it Faraday Future lays off part of its workforce, cuts wages of the rest
Edit- I thought that was Bumbleberg, ok to click for all
Hate giving them clicks but this one is worth it Faraday Future lays off part of its workforce, cuts wages of the rest
Edit- I thought that was Bumbleberg, ok to click for all
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Maybe house swings in the mid-terms to the Dems could hasten this?
I do wonder how Tesla would be faring in a more encouraging political environment for EV's...
Hello Priscila,
You woke up.
You know that your timing is pretty good indicator when we can expect critical moment for shorts/bears?
Fact Checking
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Misleading nonsense.
The owner of the largest PUT options position in Tesla doesn't have any TSLA share positions to "protect". How do we know? They'd be well beyond reporting requirements, and "SUSQUEHANNA INTERNATIONAL GROUP, LLP" certainly doesn't own 13 million TSLA shares ...
The top PUT option owner is a shadowy, private prop trading firm connected to the Kochs, heavily short in Tesla...
(We can also tell by the strike prices they are buying that they are short positions hoping for bankwuptcy. We also know because prominent shorts like Spiegel were telling us that they bought PUTs.)
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Xenius
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Well let's see, they are flat out knocking it out of the park in an unfavorable environment, so....
Talk about virtue-signaling, Erdogan has probably ordered more murders of his opponents than I've had hot dinners. Doesn't make it right, of course not, but the old black kettles and pots, etc.
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I see the queen of the desert re-appeared and has now promptly disappeared from my feed thanks to the "ignore" feature.
I suspect several that received temporary bans re-surfaced too as I see a few ghost-conversations appearing the last days. Will be glad when we gets these FUDsters out of here and I can clear-out that list. Contrary points-of-view are welcome, continual BS is not.
I suspect several that received temporary bans re-surfaced too as I see a few ghost-conversations appearing the last days. Will be glad when we gets these FUDsters out of here and I can clear-out that list. Contrary points-of-view are welcome, continual BS is not.
Same person who previously wrote:
Aka, not an investor, and mocking the very concept of investing in Tesla.
Funny how these ASTROTURFERS all come out of the woodwork immediately before or during market-moving events. Too bad there's no law against lying / misrepresenting one's self in order to try to affect the share price of their investments. OH WAIT, there IS!
virtuesoft
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Here is an idea that may or may not have been suggested before...
Create an algorithm for banning trolls. Something like the following:
If a user receives 10 times as many dislikes vs likes by trusted users (*) that user is banned.
* A trusted user is a user with at least 100 posts and has a like vs dislike ratio of at least 5.
Create an algorithm for banning trolls. Something like the following:
If a user receives 10 times as many dislikes vs likes by trusted users (*) that user is banned.
* A trusted user is a user with at least 100 posts and has a like vs dislike ratio of at least 5.
Xenius
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I'd be curious to see if we have a massive spike in FUD today, looks like it's been quiet, too quiet, over at How much FUD can the media make?.
DragonWatch
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From your field artillery Forward Observer.
Sunday (21Oct18) enroute to Seattle Airport ~ 1 hr on FWY I-5 heading north, I saw thirteen Tesla’s (9 Model Ss, 2 Model Xs and 1 Model 3)
Monday, 22Oct18 in Venice (Italy ~ not California) I saw one blue Model X in the parking lot enroute to the water taxi. Would have made Xena proud. No Tesla’s in and around the canals:-( Though replacing fossil fuel boat engines with electric and propulsion instead of propeller would help the environment here.
Had an informative presentation on the affects of climate change and what is being done to cope with sea rise. Kind of depressing.
Hope the 3Q18 review goes well, though it takes a day or two to see the affects kick in. Kind of early for the review, I was expecting November? Have fun, me I am looking forward to spaghetti ice Have not had it since the Cold War thawed, and I retired Hey, my job was done ~ and, I lived to talk about it
Sunday (21Oct18) enroute to Seattle Airport ~ 1 hr on FWY I-5 heading north, I saw thirteen Tesla’s (9 Model Ss, 2 Model Xs and 1 Model 3)
Monday, 22Oct18 in Venice (Italy ~ not California) I saw one blue Model X in the parking lot enroute to the water taxi. Would have made Xena proud. No Tesla’s in and around the canals:-( Though replacing fossil fuel boat engines with electric and propulsion instead of propeller would help the environment here.
Had an informative presentation on the affects of climate change and what is being done to cope with sea rise. Kind of depressing.
Hope the 3Q18 review goes well, though it takes a day or two to see the affects kick in. Kind of early for the review, I was expecting November? Have fun, me I am looking forward to spaghetti ice
Have not had it since the Cold War thawed, and I retired Hey, my job was done ~ and, I lived to talk about it
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How soon they forget:
"We're splitting Netflix into streaming and disk services"
"Oh wait, never mind, customers hate the idea and our stock tanked"
As Netflix turns 20, let’s revisit its biggest blunder
(Was a great opportunity to buy NFLX though (I wasn't trading then) ...)
Hey, I said Wendsday...
(no not really)
We may see 350-400 after Q3 ER. We may not. The markets have had a bit of a meltdown lately, which isn't helping. I think the markets largely have wildly pessimistic expectations for the Q3 results, though it remains to see what kind of reaction we get. Maybe the markets will shrug and assume it's a one-off. Maybe we get a deserved runup.
I don't really even attempt to predict what TSLA will do in the short term. I'm in it for the longer term. By 2025, I expect Tesla to be making millions of cars per year, at higher ASP than BMW/Mercedes/Audi/Lexus and superior profit margins. And still be growing.
Elon:
Model 3 body design could def be less complex, but, yes, most of weight difference is due to higher safety vs other cars
Elon Musk on Twitter
Model 3 body design could def be less complex, but, yes, most of weight difference is due to higher safety vs other cars
Elon Musk on Twitter
BMW expands recall on fire risk to 1.6 million diesel vehicles
Looks like torch to me...
Don't forget FUD about Tesla.
Looks like torch to me...
Don't forget FUD about Tesla.
Indeed, a missed opportunity, they could have added at the end: "The BMW recall comes following concerns after several Tesla Model S, an electric vehicle with a volatile Lithium-Ion battery pack, spontaneously caught fire in recent years."
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