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Excuses, excuses. Results matter.

The fact is.. All I have heard on cnn and msnbc is how the blue wave was going to crash and the repubs would be wiped out because they are all a bunch of racist women haters.

A net 31 seats is not a blue wave. Gerrymandering is a game played by both sides. My main disagreement with Dems is socialism. It just doesn't work. Maybe when robots do all the work and we figured out Star trek replicators, but not when real work needs to be done and people need to do it. You can't just take the money from the rich and give it to the poor. The poor will stop working hard, no reason to and the rich will leave, because they can. And sooner or later you will become Venezuela. Who would have thought such an oil rich country could be such a disaster, but socialism has a way of doing that.

Current House gains for Democrats is at 32 seats and rising. Majority of 10 remaining undecided House races are leaning D, so the seats gained is likely to end up between 38 and 40. Given that the number of Republican gerrymandered districts far surpasses the number of Democratic gerrymandered districts (based on R victories just prior to the 2010 redistricting) and it's remarkable Dems flipped as many seats as they did. And sure, you can use Venezuela to make your point about socialistic dystopia, I could use affluent Nordic countries with universal healthcare and free university for every student that qualifies to illustrate that these countries with their rampant socialism don't treat healthcare and education as privileges for the wealthy. Hard work yes, but access to opportunity for all too!
 
Using carbon nanotube flywheels...
Anyone heard of this?
Seems... Bullish AF

Lol, ever try to tip a gyroscope? Any flywheel with that much stored KE is going to be like a bull elephant riding a chicken's back. Saddle up!

Seriously, the only way to do this without upsetting the vehicle's dynamics is by having a spherical gyro mount at the vehicle's exact CG. Which will make the vehicle practically unusable, as it gives up Telsa's big packaging advantage, its 'skateboard' architecture.

Lithium Fluorine batteries have nearly the same theoretical energy density as gasoline, and serously who needs more than 3,000 miles of range? Who needs more than 600? We need more fast chargers, not bigger batteries.

Cheers!
 
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Anyone heard of this?
Seems... Bullish AF
So, flywheels are not small; people see "nanotubes" and think small. And then you have the problem of gyroscopic effects, like you try to turn a corner and the vehicle tips over. I don't know where you got that quote but it's BS.
 
Actually, if teleportation ever became a reality, you wouldn't have to send water, you'd use it to create water. Essentially a teleportation device would be encoding an object, deconstructing it, then reconstructing in another location.

You could actually remove the deconstruction step and given a suitable raw-supply of the necessary elements, reproduce what's needed.

Essential a teleportation device is a machine that copies. Ergo, you only need to make one, or many two, then it can copy itself indefinitely. No need to manufacturing anything any more. Gold, platinum, diamonds, physical currency all become worthless immediately.

Hunger, need, poverty would al cease to exist.

If it were the case that living things could be teleported - although look at all the problems Jeff Goldblum had with that! - then you could also copy that entity, assuming, of course, that the conscious isn't something intangible, but rather just a function, probably quantum-driven of the thing's brain.

Then you could also imagine that in deconstructing a human being, you could make some tweaks, on a basic DNA level. You could improve people, remove defects, disease, edit stuff.

Back to the fire, you could use it to remove the burning items and dump them, say on Mars - in Elon's fireplace, you could even phase this over time, no need to do it all in one go, the "fire" can be stored indefinitely, I guess until needed.

And then extrapolating this, a copy of everyone can be stored too when you die, recreate your younger body, but swap it for your older brain. Humans become immortal.

Something I've given thought to for some time, it's quite a conundrum.
But where's the fun in that?

Assumes deconstruction/reconstruction method of teleportation. If such a thing comes about but instead works with some kind of wormhole / tesseract type warping of space, on the other hand ....

Of course, if such tech became available, I suspect we'd have matter assemblers as well, making the discussion moot.

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Tesla has a history of having frontline staff members who have NOT been given the information on the local regulatory situation. It's wasteful and stupid. They should have someone look up all the local regulations and put it into a little handbook for their frontline staff members, but they didn't. This means their frontline staff members waste a lot of everyone's time because they don't know how cars are registered in NY (or Connecticut, or Massachusetts) or don't know the rate plans in Garland, or whatever...
To be fair there's like a bajillion rate plans in Texas and most Texans have access to them. It's not unusual for some podunk small town to have a co-up that is standalone, but most of the population is covered by a few large companies like Oncor which means that large portions of the state can be assumed to work the same. There's five companies that manage most of the physical power delivery infrastructure, so when a city like Garland exists smack dab in the middle of Oncor coverage with not only it's own power plants but performing it's own maintenance (Garland Power & Light is tied in for buying and selling power from the rest of the grid, but we can only get our power billed through them), I understand how it screws up their game plan.

The upside is that GP&L tends to have less downtime and better maintenance generally (i.e., they go around trimming trees away from power lines regularly rather than just waiting for the lines to get taken out by falling limbs) vs Oncor areas. We almost never lose power during major storms when large swathes of North Texas end up powerless for days, though recently a freak storm took out about a mile of HV transmission and distribution lines. They worked round the clock, through rain, and had them replaced in less than a week.
 
Finally catching up here... good week. So bought stock 2.5 yrs ago, not much but I’m not into investing.... grandpa was a tinkerer/renaissance man, built airplanes in late 20’s... always lamented passing on the opportunity to buy stock in 3m and instead bought motorcycle... anyhow. Consider myself “environmentalist” but also ER doctor, teacher, father... bought model S for our family car 2 yrs ago. I had to see for myself if this Tesla was all cracked up to be. Now two years later, I doubled down on my long position at 260 last week, and I am opening an account to buy more shares this week out of a cash account because I believe in this company so much. I’m not betting th farm or anything, but at this point in the companies history, I can see no Better place to stash a little extra cash.. if there is a squeeze, wouldn’t minding cashing out a few shares, but truly see where this could be the biggest company the planet has known. Thanks for y’all a insight, grins, and knowledge... long live clean energy!
 
Excuses, excuses. Results matter.

The fact is.. All I have heard on cnn and msnbc is how the blue wave was going to crash and the repubs would be wiped out because they are all a bunch of racist women haters.

A net 31 seats is not a blue wave. Gerrymandering is a game played by both sides. My main disagreement with Dems is socialism. It just doesn't work. Maybe when robots do all the work and we figured out Star trek replicators, but not when real work needs to be done and people need to do it. You can't just take the money from the rich and give it to the poor. The poor will stop working hard, no reason to and the rich will leave, because they can. And sooner or later you will become Venezuela. Who would have thought such an oil rich country could be such a disaster, but socialism has a way of doing that.
What a load of crock. You like socialism when it comes to police, firefighters and the military. And when you don’t you call out countries like Venezuela which has not really had socialism and ignore countries like Germany where it works.
 
https://www.nasdaq.com/quotes/institutional-portfolio/fmr-llc-12407?page=2
FMR unloaded half of their TSLA position in Q3, is this news or we already know?
I looked deeper:
I was actually looking at this:
https://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/tsla/institutional-holdings
It clearly says they unloaded 11M shares, and now holds 9M shares.
Which can not be accurate at all....

They reported they have about 11M share at Jun-30, then filed a 13F-HR/A updated to 9.8M.
So in Q3 they now have 9M, unloaded some (<10%).
There is no way they unloaded half (11M) in Q3.

Anyone know what's happening in this page?
This is misleading at best...
 
I looked deeper:
I was actually looking at this:
Tesla, Inc. (TSLA) Institutional Ownership & Holdings
It clearly says they unloaded 11M shares, and now holds 9M shares.
Which can not be accurate at all....

They reported they have about 11M share at Jun-30, then filed a 13F-HR/A updated to 9.8M.
So in Q3 they now have 9M, unloaded some (<10%).
There is no way they unloaded half (11M) in Q3.

Anyone know what's happening in this page?
This is misleading at best...

I think that report is their change in net position over the quarter, vs how many shares they sold total. Possible they're swing trading? Balancing? Difficult to judge w/o knowing when they bought and sold. Cheers!
 
I looked deeper:
I was actually looking at this:
Tesla, Inc. (TSLA) Institutional Ownership & Holdings
It clearly says they unloaded 11M shares, and now holds 9M shares.
Which can not be accurate at all....

They reported they have about 11M share at Jun-30, then filed a 13F-HR/A updated to 9.8M.
So in Q3 they now have 9M, unloaded some (<10%).
There is no way they unloaded half (11M) in Q3.

Anyone know what's happening in this page?
This is misleading at best...
Tesla, Inc. (TSLA) Institutional Ownership & Holdings
Here is that page from October 20th. I don't know where the original reports are but there is certainly an 11 million share difference between October 20th and today's page.
 
But do you have the same idea about what soon means - end of next week ?
Soon is inherently undefinable. Like, apparently, socialism :)
I mean before new year's probably, by Feb Q4 earnings definitely.
So, flywheels are not small; people see "nanotubes" and think small. And then you have the problem of gyroscopic effects, like you try to turn a corner and the vehicle tips over. I don't know where you got that quote but it's BS.
I got it from Stocktwits. 60% of the time, Stocktwits is BS every time
What a load of crock. You like socialism when it comes to police, firefighters and the military. And when you don’t you call out countries like Venezuela which has not really had socialism and ignore countries like Germany where it works.
Is it working in Germany? You surrrre about that?
Add a 0 to the price and I'll consider it :cool:

Nah but seriously I've now realized that if my dream plan/thesis pans out, then I've shot myself in the foot by not getting calls for a full year+ out. If I'm not mistaken I'll end up paying over 50% in taxes if everything goes well...
 
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Regarding gyroscopic precession of a mobile flywheel: that can be countered by having two counter rotating flywheels. However, the bearings and connecting shaft still need to deal with the individual resultant torques.
I feel like this is how you inadvertently invent a time machine
 
Among other things. We'd have to figure out how to reactivate the telomere repair mechanisms, which don't work in humans (or most mammals) though they exist in some other lifeforms. That's just for starters.

That said, this is far more realistic than transferring your consciousness into another body; there is very strong evidence that your consciousness is an emergent feature of your exact physical structure, and can't actually be transferred in any way.

Well there are some treatments available for this already, well allegedly, I don't know if they the real deal or a scam. I was thinking to try them myself, but to be effective you need to inject the stuff rather than take it orally, so that makes it a little complicated:

Epitalon: Potential Anti-Aging Compound - Selfhacked
 
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Tesla, Inc. (TSLA) Institutional Ownership & Holdings
Here is that page from October 20th. I don't know where the original reports are but there is certainly an 11 million share difference between October 20th and today's page.
Following up on this though I found a reference to the 20 million being an error on Reddit where the theorized the amended form got added to the original form by the bot. For some reason I can't easily find the original forms.

Did FMC LLC (Fidelity) increase Tesla holdings by 48% or did someone at Nasdaq fat finger the 13F/A? : teslamotors

Edit: I did find the 13f going to the Edgar site and no surprise it shows the same as this Reddit poster says.
 
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How much strength do you think there is left in TSLA stock? When comparing to historical stock movement, I guess the limit for the stock price sits currently (without any squeeze in question) around 385$. I do not see it going higher without further positive news.
I really dislike these types of posts. You're attempting to check the temperature of the room without giving anything.

Edit: ohhh you're shorty air force. Ignored
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