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I never understood why people spend the money on personalized plates that say the other and or the name of the car, or both. Makes no sense.
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In the first few months, some were considering self-named plates to (hopefully) stop people from driving unsafely close to the vehicle while attempting to identify the make and model.I never understood why people spend the money on personalized plates that say ... the name of the car, or both. Makes no sense.
"Increase" relative to what? A parked car in a garage? Or do you have some comparative statistics in mind that you aren't sharing with the class?The battery placement is great for performance but appears to increase the likelihood of damage significantly.
I never understood why people spend the money on personalized plates that say the other and or the name of the car, or both. Makes no sense.
I never understood why people spend the money on personalized plates that say the other and or the name of the car, or both. Makes no sense.
I know its a joke but there may be something to the ability to jettison the burning battery and save the car.
I don't want this feature but I would like to see a demo.
So you're suggesting a discussion board where there is no discussion? This happens to be a huge issue, hence the discussion.It's kind of remarkable how many "back seat engineers" topics like this bring out.
If I was an anti-Tesla person or organization, I'd be learning there's gold here. Just throw random issues at Tesla and watch their forums light up with how they should constantly retrofit everything. Death by 1000 cuts eats into profit margins pretty quick.
As has been discussed it probably does nothing to protect against point loading, which is quite different than an explosion.Alpha after watching the video i agree that the bedliner coating can be viable solution to the problem.
Thread with pictures: http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/23780-Measuring-viewing-underbody-of-the-VoltVarious discussion of the ride height of the Model S and other *EVs mentioned in the discussion. Took pictures my Volt (26.7k plug EV miles) today with a piece of wood marked. Front air dam is made up of 3 replaceable parts and is intended to be flexible (driveway, parking curb, etc, etc). Just posting this for reference. I'm sure whatever enhancements that happen to the Model S in it's first years end up on the Model X which I have a deposit on.
Obviously the Volt went through (and continues to have some PR reference) to fires so we Volt owners understand the bizarre media attention/articles and public misunderstanding or lack of caring for details besides headlines.
I was simply making an observation that the tone (omg will someone think of the children!) and lack of humility (well clearly Tesla doesn't get it so here's my proposal from 3 minutes ago that they should immediately implement) is a bit troubling. Again I think the opponents are taking notes on these reactions.So you're suggesting a discussion board where there is no discussion? This happens to be a huge issue, hence the discussion.
"Increase" relative to what? A parked car in a garage? Or do you have some comparative statistics in mind that you aren't sharing with the class?
First I'd like to say I'm a fan of Tesla and have a desire to buy a MS. Previously the lack of automatically folding mirrors was an obstacle for considering purchase of a MS. The MS is wide and we would only have 6 inches on either side to fit through the garage door. Once in there's lots of space.
Now I have a new concern. In view of the 2 or 3 recent events in the US, I don't understand the risk associated with battery pack damage due to road debris. The surface area exposure of the battery pack to the road is definitely large and the car rides low. The battery placement is great for performance but appears to increase the likelihood of damage significantly.
I understand that the occupant stays safe, but the prospect of a total loss due to road debris is not appealing. I wonder how comprehensive insurance ratse will be affected?
Furthermore I would expect to own the car for 10-15 years and wonder how accumulated damage (scratches and bruises) could affect battery pack performance. Even if catastrophic failure isn't experienced, will I still be able to do a quick battery swap? Is there any degradation to the battery in terms of capacity or quality?
Also, I wouldn't call quarter inch aluminum plate armor. I believe It's important that Tesla address these concerns seriously and openly.
It's just the fact that the battery pack spreads out over most of the car's underside that the risk of damage from road debris should be significantly higher compared to Leaf and Volt battery placement and compared to gasoline tank placement. I don't have statistics, this seems obvious to me.
I would really like to see an improvement to the design.
I think we all agree that 'fire' is more dangerous than 'no fire'. If we can prevent it, please do.
Are you sure, because a bunch of them seemed to have disappeared, including one I just posted. It's not in either thread.
There was a story my friend in a Level I trauma hospital told me about a traveler who ran over a pretty big road debris while he was traveling at a high rate of speed on I-80 AT NIGHT. Of course, he didn't see it until it was too late, and the impact was so powerful that it went through the floor board. The debris (or the floorboard sheet metal, don't know which) went up and cut one of the guy's femoral arteries. The femoral artery is one of the biggest in the human body, and supplies blood to the lower leg. It has A LOT of pressure (I have seen one cut, and has enough pressure to make blood spurt a 12-inches away from the body).
Needless to say, the traveler bled out and died in route to the hospital. He never had a chance.