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[UK] Spring Software Update
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Sorry but I just don't agree with this. The "your car gets better over time" does not mean "your car gets every single update we put out in the future".
Now if they came out and said "we will no longer be putting out new updates for the intel based cars, they are dead to us" that's different but they haven't. They are still giving you updates but they are avoiding giving you ones that they feel would be too slow for the Intel cars.
They have HW4 out, they are still building autopilot with HW3 as the prime.
Honestly if they came out and added it to Intel but made the interface all laggy and horrible, I find it hard to believe the Intel folks wouldn't be up in arms about that either. The world moves forwards, technology improves and sadly if you want to keep up you have to upgrade. You also don't need to, a few UI tweaks is not going change the overall functionality of your cars, it'll still have the best UI of any car out there.
No it's not confirmed, in fact it's already known not to be true because they get all the new rerouting, traffic updates, Audible app and so on.
People are foaming at the mouth here because their car won't get a shiny new 3D model when parked.
I probably should have indicated I was being sarcastic in my post.
This is also my take on it. Forking the code for different UIs creates addition code, testing and cost. They've not done this for LOLz, and the change isn't enough to encourage new car sales.
Green with the "behind the scenes" and "work in progress" stuff from this release.
For those non-Twits
For those non-Twits
"Drive Occupancy on the way out" - The seat sensors do fail, so my assumption is that they're doing a "the best part of no part at all" on this.
I guess they've start with neural nets to detect occupancy via cabin cam, they'll log data comparing this vs bum sensors for the next few releases, then do away with the resistive sensor if the nets prove accurate
I guess they've start with neural nets to detect occupancy via cabin cam, they'll log data comparing this vs bum sensors for the next few releases, then do away with the resistive sensor if the nets prove accurate
I know it doesn't say that, but I also didn't say that, so I'm not sure what point you're making here. There are tangible benefits to this new UI (full screen Autopilot visualisation, redesigned music interface) that Atom folks won't get. You can argue that these aren't important to you (which isn't an argument) but they are nevertheless changes. More will no doubt follow in the coming months that will be more substantial.
That's a fair point. I guess ultimately though this feels less like "this stuff will run slow on Atoms" and more like "we're changing our attitude towards software updates to be more like planned obsolescence, to encourage sales". That attitude is also fine, and not unusual in the tech world, but it is a departure from what people have been used to.
It's not different code though. Both Atom and Ryzen are the same x86 architecture. For sure the new UI would have run worse on Atom, but I'd question whether it would run terribly given it seems to be able to play the games that are preinstalled well enough. Why can't we have the choice to use it even if it's a bit choppier?
And yes - this change alone isn't enough to encourage new car sales. Let's see what else comes out in the coming months that is V12/Ryzen only, eh?
It's a shame you're saying that people are "foaming at the mouth" when previously you expressed sympathy towards people upset at feeling like they were being left behind. Was the previous position tokenistic?
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There is a certain feeling of liberation now that I know that my car is no longer a glorified changeable software platform on wheels.
It's obsolete now, so hopefully it will remain what it is now (minus a few safety tweaks here or there) and I won't have to keep "learning" a new software and its foibles.
I think I'm just too grumpy for the Tesla Software roller coaster these days... I'll just keep enjoying the awesome drive
It's obsolete now, so hopefully it will remain what it is now (minus a few safety tweaks here or there) and I won't have to keep "learning" a new software and its foibles.
I think I'm just too grumpy for the Tesla Software roller coaster these days... I'll just keep enjoying the awesome drive
When I mention foaming at the mouth, that is mostly coming from you I think as you seem to be taking this rather badly. I get your disappointed but you’re exaggerating the impact and insisting that they’ve done it on purpose as planned obsolescence.
You seemed sure that the Atom is perfectly capable of running this but now you just want a toggle switch so you can have the option of turning on a slow and laggy UI if you want it. That makes no sense for Tesla to offer that, who in their right mind really wants that.
It’s clearly not going to drive new car sales, as you rightly say they run the same code bases so why would they do this? It’ll actually be more expensive for them from a development point of view to have to maintain both the old and new UI’s than giving everyone the new UI. The only logical reason really is that the Atom cannot run it in my eyes.
As far as I can tell and believe. It's simply they need something new and shiny in their showrooms to sell people new cars, probably especially in China where this is really important. It doesn't change how the car operates, it's just something new and fresh for their demo cars for the most part.
Now on the other hand if they fixed the windscreen wipers and but only offered that to HW4 cars for instance, then that would be a more valid reason to be upset.
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Even that is not valid.
New models and new hardware for new cars and that is how any business involving tech works. If you want the latest you have to upgrade at some point.
From my perspective, yes I want new stuff but stuff that actually delivers an improvement that's functional.
I don't get the special attraction about a graphic of the car when parked. How is that improving my experience?
Similarly, visual enhancements. So what? The car doesn't drive differently or offer any different behaviour, other than showing a different presentation of a dumbed down environment, which I don't need, because if I look out of the window, I have a full colour, high resolution version!
Without wishing to appear negative, this is fiddling while Rome burns.
I don't get the special attraction about a graphic of the car when parked. How is that improving my experience?
Similarly, visual enhancements. So what? The car doesn't drive differently or offer any different behaviour, other than showing a different presentation of a dumbed down environment, which I don't need, because if I look out of the window, I have a full colour, high resolution version!
Without wishing to appear negative, this is fiddling while Rome burns.
Shush, I was hoping to have this pointless pretty thing before my imminent trip to Italy. Just to local shops mind you, we must remember were only able to visit local shops (once we get there).
I would suggest that the UI is there to serve all drivers and all cars, not to just meet your specific requirements and opinions. The 'big visualisation' is of very limited use to us in the UK, but probably more interesting to US, Canada, and soon China and Europe where FSD is coming soon. Maintaining different UIs for different countries will just make if difficult to deliver future features to your car. Say for example the new AutoPark that's coming, it would need two different UIs to support v11 and v12.
This is exactly the same as any computer based technology, you can't get a feature from the next iOS or Android without upgrading the UI, hardware support for M3 macs requires the new UI elements of OSX. It's how technology works.
Do not most cars with Intel have USS also if not all of them? I have to be honest but I suspect Elon’s coming in the future won’t be true and you’ll keep the Autopark you’ve always had.
Just not sure they’ll program it to also show up USS readings so if they enabled it, would potentially be a case of turning off the USS in those cars. They’ve probably read Zilla91’s posts and decided they don’t want to go that route.
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