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[UPDATED] 2 die in Tesla crash - NHTSA reports driver seat occupied
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ev_go123
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I was just calling it a culvert because that's what the NTSB report called it. But you're right, I would normally call that a storm drain.
BrianBigNFun
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Consumer Reports referred to it as a culvert in their article, not sure who else did but don’t think they were the only ones, but yes that’s not a photo of what I think of as a culvert. Storm drain more like it where I’m at. Although I would wonder if the water there drains into a storm drain or instead into that nearby pond, in that case maybe I can see the term used here. We have retention ponds for flooding in neighborhoods here that direct excess water into the pond instead of towards houses and guess those drains could be called culverts. But yeah I’m use to watching Gold Rush and the guys laying huge tunnel pipes they cover with dirt so they can cross river flows while not diverting the water.
Doggydogworld
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Amazon hasn't yet delivered the COVID-free friend he ordered.
(EDIT: including this screen grab which I though was upthread but can't find now. )
The left front tire track seems to go over the storm drain. At the right speed (not too fast) that could damage the battery enough for a fire. I don't know what that is between the tire tracks.
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Strap him to the next Starship test article. Param to the moon!That Tesla backseat driver (Param Sharma) in the Bay Area was arrested.
Backseat Tesla Model 3 driver arrested after misusing Autopilot
The Golden Gate Division of the California Highway Patrol (CHP) arrested 25-year-old Param Sharma for recklessly driving a Tesla Model 3. According to CHP’s social media post about the arrest, Param Sharma was charged with reckless driving for allowing his Tesla Model 3 to cruise through...www.teslarati.com
ev_go123
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So I would call that a raised manhole, not a storm drain. The storm drain we were talking about above is actually just out of view in this picture (the photographer is almost standing on it). See here:
The only reason I called it a culvert is because the NTSB used that term:
"The car leaves and travels about 550 feet before departing the road on a curve, driving over the curb, and hitting a drainage culvert, a raised manhole, and a tree.
EVNow
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Having slept over this ... not going to post the video - don't want to give tslaq ammunition to distort.
Besides, as @Doggydogworld notes, haven't received the good friend I'm yet to order from Amazon.
EVNow
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Do you have the seam as clear as in that photo in the roads you drive ? Any photos ?
Remember NN just sees the road - doesn't care whether it is in your neighborhood in TX or in my place in WA. Thats the whole point of Tesla NN - otherwise it would be like Waymo.
Silicon Desert
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While I mostly agree with that statement, I did spend some time designing smart toys in the past. We DID design safety systems to prevent purposely stupid issues like children purposely sticking things in their mouth and choking on them. And even older people with mental capacity problems do stupid things. But yes, most systems are to prevent accidental issues. Just not a blanket statement that applies to all designs.
Mentally incapable people to me still fall into the same category as accidental. Know your users. Especially for toys specifically designed for those users.While I mostly agree with that statement, I did spend some time designing smart toys in the past. We DID design safety systems to prevent purposely stupid issues like children purposely sticking things in their mouth and choking on them. And even older people with mental capacity problems do stupid things. But yes, most systems are to prevent accidental issues. Just not a blanket statement that applies to all designs.
An older teen or a competent adult capable of driving a car can get around those safety measures.
CyberGus
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Silicon Desert
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I see you want to not be wrong with a blanket statement, but didn't work with me. You aren't familiar with design rules for safety. I am by having done it for decades. Some times we are all wrong.
Admit it.Ok fine. You’re wrong.I see you want to not be wrong with a blanket statement, but didn't work with me. You aren't familiar with design rules for safety. I am by having done it for decades. Some times we are all wrong.
That’s the problem with blanket statements. There’s often an exception. So fine... I’m wrong.I see you want to not be wrong with a blanket statement, but didn't work with me. You aren't familiar with design rules for safety. I am by having done it for decades. Some times we are all wrong.
FlyF4
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he won't. He thinks he knows everything. That's why I ignore him.I see you want to not be wrong with a blanket statement, but didn't work with me. You aren't familiar with design rules for safety. I am by having done it for decades. Some times we are all wrong.
Needsdecaf
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