Mclaren doesn't want you to test it, and no Mclaren owner wants you to test their car, because you'd probably destroy a half million dollar powertrain in doing so. Which brings me to my next point, this debate about rollout vs no rollout is inane. All standing starts for ICE cars are incredibly abusive and not something you can do almost anywhere. You _should_ be looking at 5-60 times to remove "launching" from the picture. That will add a full second to almost any ICE car's 60 time. If you had a turbocharged engine, add even more time.
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[updated with *] P85D 691HP should have an asterisk * next to it.. "Up to 691HP"
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Mclaren doesn't want you to test it, and no Mclaren owner wants you to test their car, because you'd probably destroy a half million dollar powertrain in doing so. Which brings me to my next point, this debate about rollout vs no rollout is inane. All standing starts for ICE cars are incredibly abusive and not something you can do almost anywhere. You _should_ be looking at 5-60 times to remove "launching" from the picture. That will add a full second to almost any ICE car's 60 time. If you had a turbocharged engine, add even more time.
Top Gear managed this a few years ago in Dubai or similar
F1 vs Veyron.. And the F1 killed the veyron from a standstill when driven by the stig. Took awhile before the HP-advantage of the Veyron came into play.So dont discount the validity of the F1-numbers so quickly as it clearly held its won against the Veyron!
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The people that said the Tesla Roadster ran out of charge and they had to push it of the track when it never did? Nothing on that show should be taken as evidence of any kind.
I've seen every top gear ever produced. The real question is did you? Count how much edits there are in a single race. Go ahead.
I give up... You wrote noone would let anyone test these cars and that it would destroy the driverrain. I showed you an example of such a test even vs another hypercar...
If you have seen all top gear episodes you know that JC is well known for slinging negative remarks about the F1 at every opporunity he gets and the opposite about the veyron, but you just put your tinfoil hat on and simply dismiss the video showing the F1 pull away from the veyron. I assume they hired David Copperfield as well to make it look like the F1 was ahead using smoke and mirrors.....
Que the "he didnt really mean that", "you cant rely on the words of the CEO", "its in australian 60minutes so the horespowers run the opposite way down the drain" etc etc type excuses to come from the old faithful bunch of TSLA-holders
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The interview was taped before Ludicrous, otherwise he would've said 3.0 seconds for 0-100.
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That may well be true, but the interview likely was taped when Ludicrous was under development, so while Elon will not "correct" any numbers in regards to the car (he wouldn't want to spill the beans), repeating the 691hp would be perfectly fine knowing the Ludicrous would achieve it (ignoring the whole "motor power" thing).
Of course the caveat is that we don't know yet if Ludicrous gets 691hp (but will likely get sufficiently close).
Que the "he didnt really mean that", "you cant rely on the words of the CEO", "its in australian 60minutes so the horespowers run the opposite way down the drain" etc etc type excuses to come from the old faithful bunch of TSLA-holders
And so it begins.
A 5000 lb car can't hit a 1/4 mile mark in 10.9 seconds without at least 750 hp.
Hehehe of course. The fact that Elon Musk quotes the exact HP and 0-60-numbers for the current P85D has no impact(none of the numbers are reflected in any P90DL-material to my knowledge). The other fact that at 8minutes into that video the presenter drives a P85D, shows insane-mode and repeats the 691hp statement has no impact either. Musk was of course reffering to a future upgrade that was not publically known when making the interview where the reporter was discussing the P85D...
Makes "perfect sense"
the alternative that Musk was indeed referring to the P85D is just ludicrous or what? Why would he actually be answering about the car actually avaliable and driven by the reporter?...
stopcrazypp
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I don't want to speculate too much based on 1/4 mile. I think the rest of this thread already shows that relying too much on that doesn't really tell the power. People aren't upset over the performance (which is pretty much as promised, outside of perhaps the whole European issue with rollout), they are upset over the number.
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Admittedly I did not watch the video, I was going by what you guys are saying. Watching the segment, the numbers he quotes matches neither the P85D nor the Ludicrous mode. He said 0-100kph in 3.1, Tesla advertises 3.3. Ludicrous is advertised at 3.0. So the number he quotes is closer to Ludicrous than not Ludicrous.Hehehe of course. The fact that Elon Musk quotes the exact HP and 0-60-numbers for the current P85D has no impact(none of the numbers are reflected in any P90DL-material to my knowledge). The other fact that at 8minutes into that video the presenter drives a P85D, shows insane-mode and repeats the 691hp statement has no impact either. Musk was of course reffering to a future upgrade that was not publically known when making the interview where the reporter was discussing the P85D...
Makes "perfect sense"
http://my.teslamotors.com/en_AU/models/design
We shall see what the P85D upgraded to Ludicrous gets vs a P90D with Ludicrous from factory. It may very well turn out the P85D L is 0-100kph in 3.1 vs 0-100kph in 3.0 for a P90D L.
I guess he was thinking of the 0-60 mph time and forgot to account for the extra 3.5 km when talking about 0-100 km/h.
Of course he was. So used to say the 0-60numbers that he repeated it for 0-100kph as well. Matches perfectly to the 0-60mph times of the P85D and not matching any other numbers ever presented for any model then or now.
I joining this thread relatively late but it's one if the factors have ordered a 90D not a P85/90D
The tesla website does seem inconsistent... The total power for the 85D does not equal the sum of its two motors. On the P85D they don't offer the equivalent data. I don't see why not.
Mods: my first post but hopefully ok with you.
The tesla website does seem inconsistent... The total power for the 85D does not equal the sum of its two motors. On the P85D they don't offer the equivalent data. I don't see why not.
Mods: my first post but hopefully ok with you.
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