For those of you who replaced the 18" OEM with the Vredestein Quatrac 5, what has your experience been like? I would like to know how they compare to the OEM in terms of efficiency and road noise.
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Vredestein Quatrac 5
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SomeJoe7777
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I use the Vredestein Quatrac 5 as the winter tire (or road trip tire) for a P3D.
They are very nice, ride and noise are excellent. I would say the ride is just as good as the Michelin Primacy MXM4's, noise maybe just a tad higher. Efficiency is close the Primacys, especially if you increase cold pressure to 45 psi.
They are very nice, ride and noise are excellent. I would say the ride is just as good as the Michelin Primacy MXM4's, noise maybe just a tad higher. Efficiency is close the Primacys, especially if you increase cold pressure to 45 psi.
I replaced my OEM 18" Michelin Primacy MXM4 with Vredestein Quatrac 5 in August 2020.
The OEM tires have about 32,000 miles on them and were down to 4/32 tread.
I have not noticed any more noise with the Vredestein.
As far as efficiency, my OEM's , always using the aero covers, had a lifetime rating of 240 Wh/mile (long range RWD) over 32,000 miles and 2 years.
So far my Vredestein, using the aero covers, have a 1 month / 700 mile effeciency of 247 Wh/mile or 3% more energy use.
Of course it would be better to have 1 year data, but this is all I have for now, and I live in Florida so don't see much snow.
For me the trade off is worth it to have a tire that costs 1/2 as much as OEM, has the three-peak mountain snowflake (3PMSF) rating, doesn't have the foam, and offers some curb rash protection as the tire sidewall is slightly wider than the rims. I'm no tire expert, but the Vredestein ride , cornering and braking seem good to me.
The OEM tires have about 32,000 miles on them and were down to 4/32 tread.
I have not noticed any more noise with the Vredestein.
As far as efficiency, my OEM's , always using the aero covers, had a lifetime rating of 240 Wh/mile (long range RWD) over 32,000 miles and 2 years.
So far my Vredestein, using the aero covers, have a 1 month / 700 mile effeciency of 247 Wh/mile or 3% more energy use.
Of course it would be better to have 1 year data, but this is all I have for now, and I live in Florida so don't see much snow.
For me the trade off is worth it to have a tire that costs 1/2 as much as OEM, has the three-peak mountain snowflake (3PMSF) rating, doesn't have the foam, and offers some curb rash protection as the tire sidewall is slightly wider than the rims. I'm no tire expert, but the Vredestein ride , cornering and braking seem good to me.
Wvapoker
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I have only had mine on the car for about two weeks. They are as quiet if not more quiet than the stock tires. They handle great especially in the wet. I’ve only had light snow but they climbed snow covered hills with zero issues.
Efficiency is still unknown. I did a 15 mile trip out and back with and without climate control. Without climate it was dead one the Tesla trip estimate but I feel that is not enough data to say there is a difference in wh/m.
Efficiency is still unknown. I did a 15 mile trip out and back with and without climate control. Without climate it was dead one the Tesla trip estimate but I feel that is not enough data to say there is a difference in wh/m.
I actually reset a trip odom and named it "Vredestein" after tire installation. After 32K miles I have an efficiency of 234 Wh/mile on the Quatrac 5.
Lifetime is 237 Wh/mile. OEM Michelin Primacy MXM4 had 240 Wh/mile.
So there has been a 2.5% IMPROVEMENT in efficiency from 240 to 234 after switching from the OEM Michelin Primacy MXM4 to the Vredestein Quatrac 5.
Perhaps I have taken less long interstate speed trips since switching to Vredestein? Maybe I am just older and driving slower? Hard to know. I'd have to conclude the energy difference is negligible for me at least.
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Final numbers on the vredstein quatrac tires. After 40k miles, down to 4/32 inch, 234 Wh/mile. Replacing them with 235/45ZR-18 CONTINENTAL EXTREMECONTACT DWS 06 PLUS XL.
Thanks for the update! Can you provide your overall observations as well (noise, ride quality, traction, etc...)?
Noise was ok, I had hoped for a more quiet ride. I have an early model 3 that lacks the sound insulation that the more recent models have. Ride quality and traction excellent. Although i had planned to drive them in snow, due to pandemic, this did not happen, so can't report on that. If a 3 peak mountain snowflake tire is needed another one to consider would be the Crossclimate 2 or the General Altimax 365. From my reading the ALtimax is more efficient and quieter than the crossclimate2.
Occhis
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What are your expectations for the DWS06 tires? Better efficiency, longer wear life, more quiet, better handling?
Seems like the biggest issue with the Vredestein Quatrac 5 is that they are discontinued. For some reason, the combination of being inexpensive, low rolling resistance, reasonably good performance, and 3-peak-mountain-snowflake rated just didn't sell well enough to stay in production or have a successor with similar characteristics.
P-Lo801
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