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Warning icons identified?

Discussion in 'Model S: User Interface' started by SCW-Greg, Jun 23, 2013.

  1. SCW-Greg

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    #1 SCW-Greg, Jun 23, 2013
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    Everyday I get in the car and go. But for a brief instant between "Car Off", and car ready, a whole row of warning icons flash on and then disappear. What were they?! It was too fast to process... until I grabbed my iPhone and snapped a pic.

    Since this is a glass cockpit, these warning "lights" certainly are not a bulb check. I presume instead the car is doing some initial diagnostics and validating systems as normal (unless one of these icons stays on).

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    From left to right (seven on the left and seven on the right)...
    1) Air bag issue
    2) Seatbelt reminder (front row)
    3) Fog lights on (even if you have no fog lights)
    4) Rear(?) fog lights on (not used in North America)
    5) Parking lights on
    6) Headlights (main) on
    7) Brights on

    8) Traction control engaging, or issue
    9) Air suspension issue (yellow), Jack mode on (red)
    10) Park (E) brake on, or issue
    11) ABS engaging, or issue
    12) Brake (main) issue
    13) Tire pressure warning
    14) Door/Frunk/Trunk ajar warning
     
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    #3 SCW-Greg, Jun 23, 2013
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    Double DOH!!! Thanks, I updated the original post above now to reflect the current manual.


    Seems to me, they ought to be able to only show relevant information, that it should be very simple to configure the setup of the car (on build, service center, of firmware update)... so they don't need to show 20,000+ drivers in a North America an icon for something we'll never have. Or in nearly as many cars now, the front fog light icon too. This is after all, a completely programmable glass cockpit, and Tesla doesn't have to follow every ICE rule.
     
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    I don't think there is any reason for them. People are just used to the bulb check on startup, so it's a bit of a pacifier.
     
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    Totally agree, unless they are validating actual diagnostic checks.
     
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    Elon at one point mentioned how rigid the requirements for indicators in a vehicle were, and that they had to simulate fixed location lamps in order to meet these requirements. My guess is there is also a "lamp check" requirement that lights all the "lamps" so one could determine if a lamp is burned out or not. So they simulated the "lamp check" sequence at startup as well.
     
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    I see someone likes to punch it... either that or you have your MS on a roller coaster track! :wink:

     
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    :)

    Ha! Actually, if I can shake the test rides for friends and neighbors (which you're seeing some of that here), I do think I can get my 60 mile/day commute down to around 290 or so (resisting all temptation of course).

    But I also live on top of a small mountain (600+' elevation change), so each trip out, I'm in the green, and coming back, I'm spiking it.
     
  9. ken830

    ken830 Model S (Res#P12,447)

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    Yes. It was during a conversation/interview at the Computer History Museum earlier this year... It's easy to find in the transcript. If you watch the video, start at the 52:47 mark.... http://www.freshdialogues.com/2013/02/11/elon-musk-on-obama-climate-change-government-regulation/

     
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    i don't know.. i actually think it's a good idea to have a 'lamp check' sequence, even on glass cockpits.. as a driver/pilot/operator, i like to have a sense of what the possible indicators are and their location.. seeing them light in a startup sequence is reassuring and sensible to me. 2¢.
     
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    All modern airplanes (glass cockpit) have gone to system like EICAS (engine instruments & crew alerting system). Its a fixed position "window" that shows plain english text messages, color coded and ordered by priority. Its really a great way to see the important items (low fuel) and avoid getting distracted by a less important (washer fluid low) message that is also being shown!

    Elon has it right, they just had no option (yet) but to comply with the 1970s regulatory requirement.
     
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    yeah, that would be cool too. :) fms for the tesla. where we're going, we don't need roads.
     

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