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Water entering into Passenger footwell from under glovebox, with fix

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Left a Model Y out in the rain overnight, and next day after accelerating, water came dripping into passenger seat well from under the glovebox.

Found lots of threads talking about it, but no solution being clarified, or having service center fix it without explanation, etc.

Good youtube video here but on an older model 3 without hepa filters so difference design: ->

I have a model Y with the hepa filters. Left it out in the rain overnight, and when we drove it the next day, in an acceleration, water started pouring into the passenger footwell.

Started diagnosing, and discovered that the lower part of the air intake (underneath the hepa filter casing), is a two piece design, with a seam at the top. So when I did a water test (2-3 minute of using a hose on the windshield), and I took the hepa filter off, there was a puddle at the bottom of this air intake.

So whats happening....is that in rain, water will go on top of this seam, and then slowly drip into the air intake. Then on acceleration, the puddle of water moves up the air intake, and then comes out in the passenger footwell (water is flowing out of the cabin air intake that is to the side of the glovebox. In certain cases (recirculate vs not) I'm sure that water can also easily soak the cabin air filters.

Its easy to test too. Just take the hepa filters off, and here with a turkey baster, put some water on the seam and you can see water drip through the seam crack and start puddling in the air intake.

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Now, I showed tesla service center this and they told me to come bring it in. They also verified via water test that it was puddling water, so...their fix was to add this foam tape. And....I verified with a turkey baster that it does work.

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I have 2 model ys, exact same problem though.

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But I didn't want to deal with driving to the service center, so decided to fix myself. I didn't have that nice foam tape, so I just used some flextape (I think any normal duct tape would work just fine), and I covered the seam and even made a little "fin" to direct the water away from the middle.

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But yeah, just look at the bottom of one of my filters. Water has been an issue for sure.

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And the fact....that with any rain, moisture has been entering the hvac system via the air intake. Hopefully that is resolved now.

And...don't forget to change your hepa filters! These are 2.5 years old.

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Some more notes:

1. I also had my local library 3d print this part, which I think helps get foam into the evaporator coil: Tesla Model 3 Evaporator Coil Cleaner Hood by Yonkiman
2. Also learned that the Hepa filters are used anytime that the air recirculation is off (i.e., pulling air from outside), so the "bioweapon defense mode" is basically just turning on pulling outside air to max.
 
2 and 2, this is the source water of all the mouldy filters all along???

Its definitely the source of when water spills into the passenger footwell. And I'm sure that it adds to moisture getting into the hvac system (like, lets say its a small puddle and you don't accelerate hard enough for the water to travel up the hvac system...but...it eventually dries up that puddle when the A/C blows so that moisture is in the car (and...on the filters).

So this video:
he still has a moldy smell after repairing water getting into his model 3, so yes, I think your car can still smell even if water is not getting in like I showed.

And here I was thinking it was for if you drove past the fertilizer works, exact opposite, cut off all.outside air and filter to the max the inside air. They could have called it De-Gas and I might have twigged they meant Fart Exhaust.

Yep....person coal rolls you? Definitely turn on recirculate, not bioweapon defense mode. Dusty road? just use cabin air. Bioweapon defense mode will just get much dirtier, quicker, in "bad air" situations.

Thanks for posting this. I had this issue but could not figure out where the water ingress was happening. Tesla service center was of course unable to reproduce but it happened three separate times. I ended up installing this and it has not happened since.


Yeah, I can see how that definitely could help, though....when I was diagnosing, I did notice that water could get in through the seam between plastic and windshield at the bottom (not completely watertight), which could lead to drips inside the engine bay (and, the lower part of the windshield is right above the air intake plastic), which, that linked to product is below that windshield seam. Fortunately duct tape is super cheap and its not a hard repair.
 
Its definitely the source of when water spills into the passenger footwell. And I'm sure that it adds to moisture getting into the hvac system (like, lets say its a small puddle and you don't accelerate hard enough for the water to travel up the hvac system...but...it eventually dries up that puddle when the A/C blows so that moisture is in the car (and...on the filters).

So this video:
he still has a moldy smell after repairing water getting into his model 3, so yes, I think your car can still smell even if water is not getting in like I showed.



Yep....person coal rolls you? Definitely turn on recirculate, not bioweapon defense mode. Dusty road? just use cabin air. Bioweapon defense mode will just get much dirtier, quicker, in "bad air" situations.



Yeah, I can see how that definitely could help, though....when I was diagnosing, I did notice that water could get in through the seam between plastic and windshield at the bottom (not completely watertight), which could lead to drips inside the engine bay (and, the lower part of the windshield is right above the air intake plastic), which, that linked to product is below that windshield seam. Fortunately duct tape is super cheap and its not a hard repair.
Mack, you will have helped many people who have been affected by mouldy filters and water in their passenger footwell, thankyou for your efforts in diagnosing and offering an inexpensive fix for the problem. However I would like to clarify one point that you made about the ventilation although I don't know how accurate it is in relation to Teslas.

On most vehicles to reduce dust and other outside contaminants from entering the cabin it is slightly pressurised whenever the ventilation fan is on (and the windows are up) so even on recirculate some air needs to be drawn in from outside to do that. I assume Teslas bioweapon defense mode just means that more air is drawn from outside through the filter to raise the cabin pressure a bit higher so probably not much different to recirculate at an increased fan speed.

Someone with a detailed knowledge of Teslas ventilation systems may correct me but that is how a conventional vehicles ventilation works.
 
I watched those vids from the guy with deep pockets and a burning desire to get to the bottom of it. He bought an A/C unit, as in the entire assembly as it would be thrown into the car when it was made! Now that's dedication.

The conclusion was "dunno why this clip shroud for the drain hole works because there's never any water sitting there and water can't spray back up the drain from outside, and don't drop it or yank it off the filter when changing filters".

Then he drops a line about new Hepa filters as opposed to his old style, and signs off. So now I am not much the wiser for all the listening to him flapping his jaw.
 
Left a Model Y out in the rain overnight, and next day after accelerating, water came dripping into passenger seat well from under the glovebox.

Found lots of threads talking about it, but no solution being clarified, or having service center fix it without explanation, etc.

Good youtube video here but on an older model 3 without hepa filters so difference design: ->

I have a model Y with the hepa filters. Left it out in the rain overnight, and when we drove it the next day, in an acceleration, water started pouring into the passenger footwell.

Started diagnosing, and discovered that the lower part of the air intake (underneath the hepa filter casing), is a two piece design, with a seam at the top. So when I did a water test (2-3 minute of using a hose on the windshield), and I took the hepa filter off, there was a puddle at the bottom of this air intake.

So whats happening....is that in rain, water will go on top of this seam, and then slowly drip into the air intake. Then on acceleration, the puddle of water moves up the air intake, and then comes out in the passenger footwell (water is flowing out of the cabin air intake that is to the side of the glovebox. In certain cases (recirculate vs not) I'm sure that water can also easily soak the cabin air filters.

Its easy to test too. Just take the hepa filters off, and here with a turkey baster, put some water on the seam and you can see water drip through the seam crack and start puddling in the air intake.

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Now, I showed tesla service center this and they told me to come bring it in. They also verified via water test that it was puddling water, so...their fix was to add this foam tape. And....I verified with a turkey baster that it does work.

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I have 2 model ys, exact same problem though.

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But I didn't want to deal with driving to the service center, so decided to fix myself. I didn't have that nice foam tape, so I just used some flextape (I think any normal duct tape would work just fine), and I covered the seam and even made a little "fin" to direct the water away from the middle.

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But yeah, just look at the bottom of one of my filters. Water has been an issue for sure.

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And the fact....that with any rain, moisture has been entering the hvac system via the air intake. Hopefully that is resolved now.

And...don't forget to change your hepa filters! These are 2.5 years old.

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Some more notes:

1. I also had my local library 3d print this part, which I think helps get foam into the evaporator coil: Tesla Model 3 Evaporator Coil Cleaner Hood by Yonkiman
2. Also learned that the Hepa filters are used anytime that the air recirculation is off (i.e., pulling air from outside), so the "bioweapon defense mode" is basically just turning on pulling outside air to max.
Nice fix!
Tesla's fix looks like silicone tape?
In any case, silicone tape would be ideal since it is waterproof and won't dry and split like duct tape or the like.
thanks for the detailed pics and explaination. I like your diverter as well!