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White seats with Premium Upgrade Package: What do you actually get?

Discussion in 'Model S: Interior & Exterior' started by dmcmillen, Mar 26, 2017.

  1. dmcmillen

    dmcmillen Member

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    Strongly considering the white seats for my upcoming MS purchase. The PUP states "leather arm rests, steering wheel and lower dashboard when paired with leather seating," however, the white seats aren't actually leather.

    What do you actually get when you pair white seats with PUP in terms of interior materials?
     
  2. voltaren

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    White seats are awesome. The lower dash trim, door panels, and arm rests are all covered in the same white synthetic material regardless of PUP selection. The benefit with the PUP and white seats used to be perforation for cooled seats; however, Tesla discontinued those.
     
  3. bob_p

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    Almost two weeks now with the ultra white seats in our new red S 100D - and the seats look great.

    The local Tesla staff claim the white seats have held up better than the leather seats in their test drive/showroom cars, though we've also got some large towels we plan to use as temporary seat covers if we're wet or just finished exercising when returning to the car.
     
  4. TSLA Pilot

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    1,600+ miles on our Ultra White seats--no signs of any wear, color transfer, and any dirt wipes right up leaving nothing behind.

    Let's cut to the chase: given the ethical and environmental damage caused by the non-vegan interior choices, it's not a choice to get the vegan interior, it's a moral obligation:

    http://gizmodo.com/how-leather-is-slowly-killing-the-people-and-places-tha-1572678618

    TEDxMünchen - Beyond Carnism and toward Rational, Authentic Food Choices | Melanie Joy at TEDxMünchen "At Second Glance"

    Cowspiracy: The Sustainability Secret
     
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  5. pilotSteve

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    6800 miles on late Dec 2016 S90D with perf ultra white seats. No visible wear, love the material. Also learned to really like having the ventilated setting on 1 (quiet but gently draws the warm air away on hot days)
     
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    My next car will have the ultra white b/c I really like it and my wife is vegan and I'm pretty much vegan by proxy. Sorry to go off topic, but if millions were to forgo leather in premium autos, would that affect the killing of cattle? Leather prices would drop surely, but I don't think anything would happen with cattle slaughter, would it?
     
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    If the artificial leather in the ultra white seats actually holds up much better than leather, wouldn't be surprising to see Tesla introduce additional colors and phase out the leather seats completely.

    If the ultra white seats can stay clean - then they should be able to do any color...

    And if the artificial seats cost less than leather seats, that will help Tesla on pricing...
     
  8. dmcmillen

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    Thanks for the feedback, all. However, I was mostly curious about how the price of PUP does not change whether you select leather, ultra white or multi-pattern. Does that simply mean you aren't getting anything extra in terms of the "arm rests, steering wheel and lower dashboard" when ordering ultra white seats without PUP?

    For the record, my in-progress (but currently changeable) order includes ultra white and PUP.
     
  9. voltaren

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    Your question was answered in the first response. Then, recognizing the question was answered, we all went on tangents and side topics slightly related to the first post... that's what we do here at TMC. :)
     
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    I ordered white with PUP but I got in before they discontinued the vented seats.

    The PUP isn't really worth it otherwise, you can get Bioweapon Defense Mode retrofitted
     
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    22k and counting....love 'em. Comfortable, holds form, easy to clean and still look brand new.
     
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    I only have a couple weeks on my ultra-white seats, but I love them. They are very comfortable and look amazing. I got some chocolate on the driver's seat, but it wiped right off. I am sure they will need more cleaning down the road, so I've been checking into the best product for that.

    I had hoped to get the ventilated seats, but I missed those by a few days. So far, I do not at all regret that.
     
  13. dmcmillen

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    Ahh, true, for the most part! Is the steering wheel leather regardless of PUP?
     
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    I don't have the PUP and the steering wheel is a synthetic leather. Feels very nice regardless. Personally, I thought the $4500 was far too much for what they were offering and I bought the MX.
     
  15. ModelX

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    17 K and the white still looks great!
     
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    So the steering wheel is different material if you order PUP?
     
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    Bioweapon Defense appears to be on hold... I've not seen anyone state it's available for them. Disappeared, what, a month ago? No one knows if it's part of the 'simplification' or if just too many people ordered it and scarce parts ran out.
     
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    The HEPA/Bioweapon Defense feature is still listed on the order page for PUP.
     
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    No, it comes with PUP, it's the after-sale separate add on that seems to have evaporated. It was available for several weeks for just that one item as people were adding the filter themselves and asking for the software to be enabled. No idea why it's gone.
     
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    For those who feel a vegan seat is the "ethical" choice, are you also ok that the vegan seats are made with a petroleum based product? Leather bad ...oil ok? Curious.
     

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