Yeah ppl are getting carried away speculating it’s a drive by wire yoke. Lol
Me thinks it’s just less flaky grip material on the yoke, that’s all.
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Who's getting the normal steering wheel?
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Me thinks it’s just less flaky grip material on the yoke, that’s all.
Lately, Tesla has been great at overpromising and under-delivering. So I am with you that no chance in Hades we'll see anything DBW for the yoke.
I'm still pissed that I had to spend $750 to get rid of the abomination they delivered the car with originally.
I'm still pissed that I had to spend $750 to get rid of the abomination they delivered the car with originally.
Owning a Model S Refresh has become an exercise in throwing good money after bad. So add the wheel to the dumpster fire of my hard earned money. As others have said, we probably have 3 more price cuts in the near future to get back to $70k MSRP.
MarcG
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Just got my yoke replaced by the new wheel through mobile service. They asked me if I wanted to keep the yoke (of course I said yes) but said they needed to keep the airbag for safety reasons.
More interestingly, they needed to make a configuration change through one of the ports under the screen (not the blue CAN connector on the right, but the white one on the left) - however, they did not have the correct adapter as apparently Tesla changed connectors to ethernet after the first batch of Model S refreshes (which my Plaid is one of those early ones). So they came back a couple of hours later with the correct adapter.
They entered Service Mode to get the car's software "unlocked", which allowed the tech to make his config updates, then pushed a firmware update (not the whole thing) which only took a few minutes. At the end, he pushed the entire software update (same version as I had before, FSD beta 11.3.6 aka 2022.45.15) which took the usual 40-45 minutes.
I'll post again later today after I've had a chance to drive it and include some photos of the new wheel versus the yoke versus the Model 3 wheel that I used to run thanks to @rhuber.
More interestingly, they needed to make a configuration change through one of the ports under the screen (not the blue CAN connector on the right, but the white one on the left) - however, they did not have the correct adapter as apparently Tesla changed connectors to ethernet after the first batch of Model S refreshes (which my Plaid is one of those early ones). So they came back a couple of hours later with the correct adapter.
They entered Service Mode to get the car's software "unlocked", which allowed the tech to make his config updates, then pushed a firmware update (not the whole thing) which only took a few minutes. At the end, he pushed the entire software update (same version as I had before, FSD beta 11.3.6 aka 2022.45.15) which took the usual 40-45 minutes.
I'll post again later today after I've had a chance to drive it and include some photos of the new wheel versus the yoke versus the Model 3 wheel that I used to run thanks to @rhuber.
MarcG
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Ok I drove with the wheel around the block, and it's pretty similar to the Model 3/Y wheel experience except without the turn signal stalks - still much better than the joke of a yoke.
The new wheel isn't as thick or as large as I thought it would be; at their widest points, here's how the 3 devices compare:
Yoke: just over 38cm (15")
New wheel: just over 37cm (14.5")
Model 3/Y wheel: just over 35mm (13.75")
Despite those numbers, the new wheel feels closer in size to the Model 3/Y wheel than the yoke, which is just aberrantly wide.
Some comparison photos you might enjoy:
SucreTease
Teslarian
In your last photo, the 3 and S wheels look nearly exactly the same width (and thickness). How can the S wheel be 3/4" wider than the 3 (unattached) wheel?
MarcG
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It might be the angle of the photo, but 3/4 of an inch, or 2cm isn’t much at all (half of that is the extra width on each side).
When I took comparison pics they weren’t representative of reality. The yoke and the new round wheel are pretty identical at the control panel, but the yoke looks wider in the pics.
Vettepartz
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If the yoke was fine with you, why did you spend the time and money to switch it?
Vettepartz
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Awiner
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Vettepartz
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What’s your plan to switch back without the yoke airbag and the programming needed for the switch?
Vettepartz
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If I want to switch, I will wait for an update to become available. Then make the switch, followed by doing the software update.
zoomer0056
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Vettepartz
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As far as I know, either a new software update or a forced re-load of the current one. This was from the tech at a service center, and I assume that is all that you need, but I obviously have not tried it yet.
They do the software reload, which can be done from the service menu yourself, but they also connect their Toolbox laptop and change the settings in the car for the round wheel. What all that does in terms of changes to the system, I don't know. I do know it changes all the icons to wheels instead of yokes, but it might do other things like affect the nag on autopilot.
Awiner
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Yes we need to find out what this Toolbox 3 initialed toggle does in particular.
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Vettepartz
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I have spent a whole day now driving with the new wheel. Even though I had gotten used to the yoke, I am now finding the wheel to feel much more comfortable.
On another note, I have had a few people question me about the shirt in my avatar. So here is a bigger picture.
On another note, I have had a few people question me about the shirt in my avatar. So here is a bigger picture.
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