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Will Mercedes jump to level 3 before Tesla? Looks like it.
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The bit I don’t get is the ‘upto 60kph’...the French are introducing the same law...only for roads that are 90 or 110 or 130kph...so driving at 60 makes no sense to me
Daniel in SD
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I think you can figure it out. There are some clues in link you posted but you have to think about it from an engineering perspective as well.
Daniel in SD
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People want an automated driving system that does not require supervision.Ok..I’ll play....give me my first clue..
sleepydoc
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This strikes me as a company racing to have the 'first' bragging rights. If you read the article, it's extremely limited. 60 km/h is roughly 35 mph. it will only stay in it's lane and brake. It doesn't appear to do any other navigation or steering, nor do they mention lane changes much less turns. Essentially this is the equivalent of autopilot at half the speed.
The other relevant point is the statement "Germany was the first country to create a legal basis for the intended use of [self driving] systems." and "Mercedes-Benz aims to obtain regulatory series approval for the two US states of California and Nevada by the end of the year, provided the legal situation permits the system operation." Essentially they can't do it in the US because the laws don't allow for it.
Meh
Daniel in SD
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They do have auto lane change but, like Tesla, they won't guarantee that it works so it's part of a different L2 system. Their Autopilot like system works up to 130mph.
I believe their system is legal in California but they need to fill out this form and get approval (https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/file/...nomous-vehicles-on-public-streets-ol-321-pdf/).
It will be interesting to see if their system works and how valuable people find it. Audi tried to release a traffic jam ADS and failed.
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Daniel in SD
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When the system is engaged supervision is not required. The link you posted gives a description of when the system can be engaged.
Ingaged in traffic I understand...so the moment the flow of traffic exceeds 60kph it switches off...a lot of traffic jams ebb and flow, temporarily speed up only to stop in a few yards...could all be pointless
Daniel in SD
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Yep, it may not be useful at all in some countries. Perhaps there are few traffic jams in France but here in Southern California it is not unusual to drive in traffic <60kph for 30 minutes at a time on controlled access roads.
ZenRockGarden
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They appear to have invented a system that can follow the car in front of it, in a single lane, on a restricted set of roads, at low speed.
Woohoo!
Daniel in SD
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They also have invented a system that works on all well marked roads up to 130mph.
Daniel in SD
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Unfortunately Mercedes tells you not to do that. You're not even supposed to use your phone. Though I suspect those restrictions are so they're not responsible if the airbag launches a solid object into your face. It will be interesting to see if they enforce them with the cabin camera.
Daniel in SD
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Huh? It's a perfectly legal feature of the car. It just requires supervision like Autopilot does.
Bummer. I would jump in the back seat and chill out and stretch my legs.
stopcrazypp
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Do you have a source for that? I know they say you can't sleep nor leave the seat, but I haven't seen them say you can't use your phone or read a book. If that's the case, it's fairly worthless, as the primary suggested use case for L3 is to get some work done or entertainment while stuck in traffic.
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