Oh my God....did you seriously post this?
Walter Huang had a medical condition with AP on...before the crash.
I never saw that part of the story. Is there a source for that info?
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Oh my God....did you seriously post this?
Walter Huang had a medical condition with AP on...before the crash.
Lol, it absolutely doesn't. But Early access is encompassed every software change, not just autopilot related. Also Navigate on Autopilot was able to be tested with auto lane change to early-access people and we still don't have it, so whatever it is some fun for early adopters.I was not aware FSD is working now, Early Access is a way to say don't be mad we screwed you, here is yet some more intangible stuff.
Did not see that anywhere.I never saw that part of the story. Is there a source for that info?
Tesla is not like any other company you (or I) have ever dealt with. Their marketing is pushing the boundaries of deception. I still have the car which was advertised at 691hp, Elon touted it as a 700hp car, and yet, all Tesla delivered was 463hp and an excuse how most of my car can is 691hp capable, just not the battery or the inverter connected to it. Anyone who got FSD, get ready for "your car is totally capable, except for the computer, cameras, or whatever is preventing your car from even achieving FSD". Welcome to Tesla marketing. Sorry you got taken for $3K, I paid $25K for extra 278hp, got 50hp and an excuse. AP1 summon I paid for was supposed to "find me anywhere on private property" and my car was supposed to have reliable blind spot monitoring. My car was also supposed to get better with all the OTA updates, and yet, the browser has been pretty much dead for almost a year now, and V9 has horrible user experience. But, I guess Tesla will spin it that browser not working is for my safety, so I don't browse while driving.FSD is not a delivered product. There is precedent. EVERY company I’ve ever dealt with gives a refund for a product if the price is reduced BEFORE delivery. This is not the same as giving a refund on a product you drove home and are using.
My 691hp was never delivered. AP1 summon was never delivered (the one which was supposed to find me anywhere on private property). SDK which was "just around the corner" in 2013 was never delivered. Reliable blind spot monitoring and warning for AP1 was never delivered (though Tesla did cleanse that from their website, along with summon illustration showing car meeting you at the curb perpendicular to the driveway). And guess what, my then flagship P85D has depreciated more than 50% since. Elon promises stuff all the time he never delivers (at least not to people that paid for it when he promised it), which is why you should never pay for anything from Tesla until it's ready to be delivered.Key difference: cars and options delivered. FSD has not been delivered.
They basically have everyone a different price after the fact. Not cool that everyone now has a different price to get to the same point.
THE ONLY REASON WE BOUGHT FSD WAS TESLA SAYING THAT WE WILL PAY MORE OTHERWISE! THAT IS NOT TRUE!!!
Lol, it absolutely doesn't. But Early access is encompassed every software change, not just autopilot related. Also Navigate on Autopilot was able to be tested with auto lane change to early-access people and we still don't have it, so whatever it is some fun for early adopters.
YOU GAMBLED AND YOU LOST, IT HAPPENS EVERY DAY, GET OVER IT!!!
Yeah, glad there is nothing else like this like flying on a plane or getting a hotel room.
ebmcs03 said:
So people who didn’t buy anything are rewarded to purchased FSD for total of $5k now. But those of us who bought EAP now are penalized and have to pay $7k total to get FSD. F U Tesla!
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Exactly. Tesla needs to make this right by adding FSD to those who already spent 5k on autopilot when they bought the car in 2018.
Elon / Tesla please listen. This issue will not go away without resolution.
Folks reading this, please call and write Tesla. Tesla will have to listen if enough of us bring this issue to them.
Not a valid comparison. We preordered a product (FSD) that Tesla has not yet delivered. Now, Tesla has reduced the pre-order price and is refusing to refund the difference. Furthermore, Tesla accepted our pre-order under false pretenses by telling us (often in writing) that pre-ordering FSD after vehicle delivery would cost more.So, to the people that think they got overcharged.
Do you feel the same way when the fridge you purchased goes on sale for $400 dollars off the two weeks after you bought it?
Do you feel the same way when the phone you purchased last year goes on sale 6 months later at 40% off?
You must feel the same when the tires you bought last week just went on sale with buy three and get on free with 100 dollar Visa card included.
Not a valid comparison. We preordered a product (FSD) that Tesla has not yet delivered. Now, Tesla has reduced the pre-order price and is refusing to refund the difference. Furthermore, Tesla accepted our pre-order under false pretenses by telling us (often in writing) that pre-ordering FSD after vehicle delivery would cost more.
Any other company would give us two options — (1) cancel the pre-order for a full refund or (2) refund the difference in the pre-order price.