Will the EPA revoke CA emissions waiver?

[Jack6591]

Trump's inauguration crowd was much larger than Obama's. His popular vote was much bigger than the fifty state attorney generals said.

He seems very preoccupied with SIZE.

Or maybe he just suffers from SPS. Small phallus syndrome.

 

[Doug_G]

I think the title to this thread is misleading, they have not decided to revoke at this point. It should be changed to will the Trump admin revoke the California Emission Waiver.

Thread title changed.

 

[Doug_G]

Time for the mods to close and lock this thread before it goes off the rails

We rarely close threads... but this thread has already exceeded the threshold for inappropriate political commentary. Should this persist the entire thread will be dumped into snippiness.

 

[apacheguy]

So it begins:

Trump administration orders media blackout at EPA
Trump administration orders media blackout at EPA

 

[Vitold]

Evidently Mr. Pruitt is in favor of states' rights except when it comes to California

http://www.governing.com/templates/gov_print_article?id=411181865

Trump's EPA pick casts doubt on California's power to regulate auto emissions

Is this really such a big issue? If California was denied to have their own pollution standard they could certainly tax cars based on their CO2 footprint - could they not?

 

[apacheguy]

Is this really such a big issue? If California was denied to have their own pollution standard they could certainly tax cars based on their CO footprint - could they not?

It's not just CO2 emissions. California has over 40 waivers and the bulk of them are to address poor air quality. California certified vehicles emit less NO and fewer particulates compared to those sold in other markets.

 

[apacheguy]

Arnie weighs in

Arnold on Twitter

 

[Vitold]

It's not just CO2 emissions. California has over 40 waivers and the bulk of them are to address poor air quality. California certified vehicles emit less NO and fewer particulates compared to those sold in other markets.

Are you saying that that NOx emissions and particulates could not be taxed?

 

[apacheguy]

Are you saying that that NOx emissions and particulates could not be taxed?

It would be unprecdented and prone to legal battles. If the EPA follows through then yes, of course California will be looking at alternatives to prevent these cars from hitting our roads. Currently all regulations are mandated by CARB. The entire way that CA looks at air quality would be upended and we would likely see an expansion of power for CARB so that they can directly tax and control which vehicles are allowed to be shipped within state boundaries.

 

[hockeythug]

Maybe Tesla can start using some quality paint that doesn't get scratched by a feather now.

 

[Branzo90D]

@kort677 said, "the power of the executive branch is limited by the power of the congress, hence when a president overreaches the legislative branch reigns him in." Not exactly what the constitution says, but I'll leave it at that. And you thought Obama overreached.

Hmm, I thought the constitution determined the powers of the individual branches of government...checks and balances and all that. Then, when the legislative and executive branches clash, the courts determine the final meaning of the law based upon constitutional and legal precedent. But, apparently, as soon as one party wins both houses all that constitutional balance is nonsense?

I also thought conservatives were strict constructionists, deficit hawks, and not judicial activists. At least they like to say so...until they actually get the power and then all that nonsense about states' rights, balanced budgets, activist judges, etc., just goes out the window.

Good luck with the actual real-world results of this new administration. That's all that really matters, not what everyone has to say about it. Sure seems like a lot of "let them eat cake!" going on.