Can't wait until it hits the market properly.
It's not just the power, it's also the potential capacity factor.
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Can't wait until it hits the market properly.
It's not just the power, it's also the potential capacity factor.
nwdiver
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And that's just the beginning. I think we'll look back on 12MW turbines in 2030 in much the same way we look back on 2MW turbines today. Awe.... how quaint
EIA Electricity Power Monthly - February 2020 for November 2019.
Wind generation for December 2019 was up on December 2018, continuing the expected trend, although it was probably not especially windy.
Total generation for 2019 was ... drumroll ... 300,071GWh, so just topped 300TWh over a 12 month period for the first time.
In rolling 12 month generation, wind power extended its lead over hydroelectricity at 7.23% compared to 6.59% for hydro. Hydro was down in 2019, at 273,707GWh, but total wind generation was greater than hydro for 2018, and for all but 2 years back to 2008 (2017 300,333GWh, 2011 319,355GWh).
2,818.0MW of new capacity was added in December 2019. In the race to beat the tax credit phaseout, planned new capacity for the next 12 months, increased by 8,305.8MW, bringing the planned 12 month total to 20,674.8MW, which would increase total capacity by 19.96%.
Capacity (MW):
Capacity Factor (MW):
Generation (GWh):
Wind generation for December 2019 was up on December 2018, continuing the expected trend, although it was probably not especially windy.
Total generation for 2019 was ... drumroll ... 300,071GWh, so just topped 300TWh over a 12 month period for the first time.
In rolling 12 month generation, wind power extended its lead over hydroelectricity at 7.23% compared to 6.59% for hydro. Hydro was down in 2019, at 273,707GWh, but total wind generation was greater than hydro for 2018, and for all but 2 years back to 2008 (2017 300,333GWh, 2011 319,355GWh).
2,818.0MW of new capacity was added in December 2019. In the race to beat the tax credit phaseout, planned new capacity for the next 12 months, increased by 8,305.8MW, bringing the planned 12 month total to 20,674.8MW, which would increase total capacity by 19.96%.
Capacity (MW):
| Period | Prior | Change | New | Change |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Month | 100,766.5 | 2,818.0 | 103,584.5 | 2.80% |
| YTD | 94,417.7 | 9,166.8 | 103,584.5 | 9.71% |
| Rolling | 94,417.7 | 9,166.8 | 103,584.5 | 9.71% |
| Plan +12mo | 15,187.0 | 8,305.8 | 20,674.8 | . |
Capacity Factor (MW):
| Value | Prior | Change | New | Change |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Month Capacity | 90,534.1 | 10,257.4 | 100,791.5 | 11.33% |
| Month Factor | 34.8% | 0.8% | 35.6% | 2.30% |
| Rolling 12mo Factor | 34.7% | 0.2% | 34.9% | 0.60% |
Generation (GWh):
| Year | Month | YTD | Rolling | Month % | YTD% | Rolling |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2018 | 24,305 | 272,650 | 272,650 | 7.14% | 6.49% | 6.49% |
| 2019 | 27,183 | 300,071 | 300,071 | 8.01% | 7.23% | 7.23% |
| Difference | 2,878 | 27,421 | 27,421 | 0.87% | 0.74% | 0.74% |
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At this point price support is more important than direct subsidy to deployment, so it should have a substantial impact.
The Beeb said:
At this point price support is more important than direct subsidy to deployment, so it should have a substantial impact.
EIA Electricity Power Monthly - March 2020 for January 2019.
Wind generation for January 2020 was unsurprisingly comfortably up on January 2019, with 28.4TWh and 25.1TWh respectively, bringing the rolling 12 month total to 303.4TWh, compared 272.2TWh 12 months ago. The rolling 12 month share of total generation is 7.34%, compared to 6.49% 12 months ago.
717.2MW of new capacity was added in January 2020, and planned new capacity for the next 12 months, increased by 1,132.9MW, bringing the planned 12 month total to 21,090.5MW, which would increase total capacity by 20.2%.
Capacity (MW):
Generation (GWh):
Wind generation for January 2020 was unsurprisingly comfortably up on January 2019, with 28.4TWh and 25.1TWh respectively, bringing the rolling 12 month total to 303.4TWh, compared 272.2TWh 12 months ago. The rolling 12 month share of total generation is 7.34%, compared to 6.49% 12 months ago.
717.2MW of new capacity was added in January 2020, and planned new capacity for the next 12 months, increased by 1,132.9MW, bringing the planned 12 month total to 21,090.5MW, which would increase total capacity by 20.2%.
Capacity (MW):
| Period | Prior | Change | New | Change |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Month | 103,584.5 | 717.2 | 104,301.7 | 0.69% |
| YTD | 103,584.5 | 717.2 | 104,301.7 | 0.69% |
| Rolling | 95,314.5 | 8,987.2 | 104,301.7 | 9.43% |
| Plan +12mo | 20,674.8 | 1,132.9 | 21,090.5 | . |
Generation (GWh):
| Year | Month | YTD | Rolling | Month % | YTD% | Rolling |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2019 | 25,137 | 25,122 | 272,190 | 6.99% | 6.98% | 6.49% |
| 2020 | 28,403 | 28,403 | 303,353 | 8.31% | 8.31% | 7.34% |
| Difference | 3,266 | 3,281 | 31,163 | 1.33% | 1.33% | 0.84% |
EIA Electricity Power Monthly - April 2020 for February 2020.
Wind generation for February 2020 was significantly up on February 2019, with 29.2TWh compared to 23.0TWh, continuing the expected trend.
In rolling 12 month generation, wind power is at 39.6TWh and 7.48% of generation, up from 272.0TWh and 6.48% a year ago.
106.6MW of new capacity was added in February 2020. Planned new capacity for the next 12 months, increased by 1,448.0MW, bringing the planned 12 month total to 22,431.9MW, which would increase total capacity by 21.48%.
Included estimated solar, solar plus wind has reached 10.16% of generation.
Capacity (MW):
Capacity Factor (MW):
Generation (GWh):
Wind generation for February 2020 was significantly up on February 2019, with 29.2TWh compared to 23.0TWh, continuing the expected trend.
In rolling 12 month generation, wind power is at 39.6TWh and 7.48% of generation, up from 272.0TWh and 6.48% a year ago.
106.6MW of new capacity was added in February 2020. Planned new capacity for the next 12 months, increased by 1,448.0MW, bringing the planned 12 month total to 22,431.9MW, which would increase total capacity by 21.48%.
Included estimated solar, solar plus wind has reached 10.16% of generation.
Capacity (MW):
| Period | Prior | Change | New | Change |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Month | 104,301.7 | 106.6 | 104,408.3 | 0.10% |
| YTD | 103,584.5 | 823.8 | 104,408.3 | 0.80% |
| Rolling | 95,780.5 | 8,627.8 | 104,408.3 | 9.01% |
| Plan +12mo | 21,090.5 | 1,448.0 | 22,431.9 | . |
Capacity Factor (MW):
| Value | Prior | Change | New | Change |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Month Capacity | 95,314.6 | 8,983.3 | 104,297.9 | 9.42% |
| Month Factor | 35.9% | 4.4% | 40.3% | 12.26% |
| Rolling 12mo Factor | 34.2% | 1.2% | 35.4% | 3.46% |
Generation (GWh):
| Year | Month | YTD | Rolling | Month % | YTD% | Rolling |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2019 | 22,994 | 48,122 | 272,001 | 7.28% | 7.12% | 6.48% |
| 2020 | 29,235 | 57,638 | 309,587 | 9.15% | 8.72% | 7.48% |
| Difference | 6,241 | 9,516 | 37,586 | 1.87% | 1.59% | 1.00% |
TheTalkingMule
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dgpcolorado
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2024, so the Haliade-X will lead for a few years. But, at least we pretty much know there's more coming, keeping the downward price path.. I wonder when wexll hear about 16MW.
SageBrush
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SageBrush
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I read about a 12 MW turbine from Siemens-Gamesa that I think is in production
108 meter blades = 354 feet. 1 "story" of a building is ~14 feet. So each of these blades are approximately equivalent to a 25 story building.
dgpcolorado
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EIA Electricity Power Monthly - May 2020 forMarch 2020.
Wind generation for March 2020 was up on March 2019, with 29.5TWh compared to 26.1TWh, continuing the expected trend.
In rolling 12 month generation, wind power is at 313.0TWh and 7.59% of generation, up from 271.7TWh and 6.46% a year ago.
1,510.5MW of new capacity was added in March 2020. Planned new capacity for the next 12 months, increased by 1,340.6MW, bringing the planned 12 month total to 22,262.0MW, which would increase total capacity by 21%.
As in February 2020, the capacity factor of wind generation in March 2020 was higher than that of coal.
Included estimated solar, solar plus wind has reached 10.31% of generation.
Capacity (MW):
Capacity Factor (MW):
Generation (GWh):
Wind generation for March 2020 was up on March 2019, with 29.5TWh compared to 26.1TWh, continuing the expected trend.
In rolling 12 month generation, wind power is at 313.0TWh and 7.59% of generation, up from 271.7TWh and 6.46% a year ago.
1,510.5MW of new capacity was added in March 2020. Planned new capacity for the next 12 months, increased by 1,340.6MW, bringing the planned 12 month total to 22,262.0MW, which would increase total capacity by 21%.
As in February 2020, the capacity factor of wind generation in March 2020 was higher than that of coal.
Included estimated solar, solar plus wind has reached 10.31% of generation.
Capacity (MW):
| Period | Prior | Change | New | Change |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Month | 104,408.3 | 1,510.5 | 105,918.8 | 1.45% |
| YTD | 103,584.5 | 2,334.3 | 105,918.8 | 2.25% |
| Rolling | 96,636.3 | 9,282.5 | 105,918.8 | 9.61% |
| Plan +12mo | 22,431.9 | 1,340.6 | 22,262.0 | . |
Capacity Factor (MW):
| Value | Prior | Change | New | Change |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Month Capacity | 95,806.4 | 8,552.2 | 104,358.6 | 8.93% |
| Month Factor | 36.4% | 1.4% | 37.8% | 3.85% |
| Rolling 12mo Factor | 33.9% | 1.6% | 35.5% | 4.72% |
Generation (GWh):
| Year | Month | YTD | Rolling | Month % | YTD% | Rolling |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2019 | 26,102 | 74,238 | 271,653 | 7.99% | 7.41% | 6.46% |
| 2020 | 29,483 | 87,121 | 312,955 | 9.54% | 8.98% | 7.59% |
| Difference | 3,381 | 12,883 | 41,302 | 1.55% | 1.57% | 1.13% |
6MW? What is this, 2015?
(British ex-pat
INATM,
Perhaps you will find this 14MW Siemens upcoming product more to your liking?
Interesting that they may end up building a production facility on the East Coast of the US. That might give all the coal miners looking for work something productive to do:
https://www.4coffshore.com/news/sie...nt-for-coastal-virginia-project-nid17429.html
Prototype in 2021, and not commercially available until 2024.
RT
INATM,
Perhaps you will find this 14MW Siemens upcoming product more to your liking?
Interesting that they may end up building a production facility on the East Coast of the US. That might give all the coal miners looking for work something productive to do:
https://www.4coffshore.com/news/sie...nt-for-coastal-virginia-project-nid17429.html
Prototype in 2021, and not commercially available until 2024.
RT
I could see they were just test turbines. The new projects should be using the new generation that's coming.
It's actually really exciting to see offshore wind coming to the USA. It's a sign of just how much the costs have come down. In late 2019, BNEF’s global benchmark LCOE estimate for offshore wind fell to $78/MWh and it's not going to stop falling for a while.
Panorama - BNEF: solar and wind reach parity with power prices in California, China and parts of Europe - Renewable Energy Magazine, at the heart of clean energy journalism
Offshore turbine manufacturing tends to be _relatively_ local. They're massive, so they're not something that will be shipped too far.
A Bloomberg article with more information about costs:
Scale-up of Solar and Wind Puts Existing Coal, Gas at Risk | BloombergNEF
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TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
These mega-turbines are getting so big the blades simply can't be delivered in one piece. I wonder if this development could have additional advantages?
We've been brainstorming wind/solar/storage solutions for the UVSI, but it's hard to have any significant wind supply when you get hit with 150mph+ hurricanes once every 5-10 years. These 14MW turbines are for offshore, but could the same two-piece blade logic be applied to a more typical on-shore wind turbine in the 4-5MW range?
Think these 2 piece blades could have their "tips" removed to limit damage from an oncoming hurricane? Lets say you had a dozen 5MW wind turbines with two-piece blades where the tip end was about 2/3 of the total blade length. Think removing those tips and locking the turbine in stationary mode would allow it to handle 150mph winds for an hour or two?
We've been brainstorming wind/solar/storage solutions for the UVSI, but it's hard to have any significant wind supply when you get hit with 150mph+ hurricanes once every 5-10 years. These 14MW turbines are for offshore, but could the same two-piece blade logic be applied to a more typical on-shore wind turbine in the 4-5MW range?
Think these 2 piece blades could have their "tips" removed to limit damage from an oncoming hurricane? Lets say you had a dozen 5MW wind turbines with two-piece blades where the tip end was about 2/3 of the total blade length. Think removing those tips and locking the turbine in stationary mode would allow it to handle 150mph winds for an hour or two?
Historic first offshore turbine installed in U.S.:
First Wind Turbine Installed in US Federal Waters | Offshore Wind
First Wind Turbine Installed in US Federal Waters | Offshore Wind
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