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And my wipers are magically working again. Still on 2021.44.6 that was giving me issue up until last night. Not sure what changed…
Autosteer requires that the wipers be in Auto. So does cruise control. I had this problem tonight on a 25 mile drive. Couldn't use cruise control because the wipers kept going on a dry window and squeaking. It's not autosteer except that autosteer turns on auto wipers.I doubt the windshield is connected to Autosteer.
Autosteer requires that the wipers be in Auto. So does cruise control. I had this problem tonight on a 25 mile drive. Couldn't use cruise control because the wipers kept going on a dry window and squeaking. It's not autosteer except that autosteer turns on auto wipers.
Why? It’s not like the wipers are wiping the rain off of the camerasAutosteer requires that the wipers be in Auto. So does cruise control. I had this problem tonight on a 25 mile drive. Couldn't use cruise control because the wipers kept going on a dry window and squeaking. It's not autosteer except that autosteer turns on auto wipers.
The wipers DO cover the cameras at the top center of the windshield. I tried using the washing feature and I manually wiped them down all without fixing the issue. This is definitely a auto-wiper issue which breaks the TACC and FSD features.Why? It’s not like the wipers are wiping the rain off of the cameras
It's not just you. Happen very often. The AI gets confused on many situations.Sometimes the auto wiper feature thinks it's supposed to wipe when there's no rain and I can't get it to stop.
Finally I shouted "STOP THE F-ING WIPERS!" and it did.
But I'd like to be able to leave it in auto mode and not have it trigger falsely, and if it does then I'd like to be able to turn the damn thing off.
Suggestions? Is it just me?
What is the Tesla logic to detect rain?It's not just you. Happen very often. The AI gets confused on many situations.
What is the Tesla logic to detect rain?
I know the BMW logic. I have one too. The issue with BMW logic is refraction. Use a thicker aftermarket windshield and it is unable to detect rain. Happened to me. Had to go back and get an original BMW windshield for the rain sensor to work again.The logic on my 2004 BMW is that it has a sensor that processes the data, sends it over the Internet to BMW's cloud processing data center in Munich, where it gets analyzed by artificial intelligence robots that ping weather satellites to determine whether it's ****ing raining...
Actually it's a sensor that gets blocked with water drops. The more it's blocked, the faster the wipers go. When you stop at a light, the wipers slow down.
And it does what you want 99.9% of the time.
I know the BMW logic. I have one too. The issue with BMW logic is refraction. Use a thicker aftermarket windshield and it is unable to detect rain. Happened to me. Had to go back and get an original BMW windshield for the rain sensor to work again.
I don't want to get into the therapy argument. I'll just say that when the AI wiper system goes crazy, I set it to manual which removes the danger out of it. I see the automatic wiper system as "available when it feels like it", which is a bummer, but the danger side of it can be alleviated easily.
Just a follow up. Talked to the service center and turns out that only thing they can do is test whether the wiper issue is due to a worn wiper motor. Other than that, they will just report the issue to engineering and hope it gets addressed. Looks like I just have to hope one of the future releases will fix the wiper...
Next time the wipers go whacky, try capturing dashcam video for review. Esp. if it captures the same camera that triggers the wipers, it might show visual artifacts that the neural net mishandles. If the service folks are up to the task, they'd at least send the video and contemporary log data to the dev or QA team for analysis.
It'd be great if the car could capture the relevant image every time we press the manual wipe button, which is a signal for tuning the auto-wiper neural net.
What is the Tesla logic to detect rain?
I read ( eg unverified) that the camera it’s using is not focused on the windowsheild but is instead one the cameras used for driving. So it’s trying to detect rain drops without the ability to reallly see them.
I did use the Dash Cam feature to record the windshield condition when it auto wipes and when I had to override, and I seriously can't see any difference in the camera views. There are rain drops in the video, but it's barely visible. Perhaps the computer is better at figuring it out than our eyes?Again: Tesla set out to reinvent the wheel. Most of the time they succeeded in improving it, but this is one of the misses.