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Wish We Could Submit Speed Limit Corrections
- Thread starter D.E.
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The only real solution to this is to read speed limit signs.
Speed limits change all the time so the car needs to be able to read and process speed limit signs but MobileEye seems to have a patent on this. I wish they'd figure out a way to get around that or invalidate that patent. Not sure how they obtained a patent for reading legally mandated speed limit signs. More or less pattern and character recognition.
One way or another Tesla will have to read speed limits for FSD.
The speed limit signs that show up where we live is a mess and sometimes the speed limits shown are off by 10mph on secondary roads (shows 45 when the limit is 35).
Speed limits change all the time so the car needs to be able to read and process speed limit signs but MobileEye seems to have a patent on this. I wish they'd figure out a way to get around that or invalidate that patent. Not sure how they obtained a patent for reading legally mandated speed limit signs. More or less pattern and character recognition.
One way or another Tesla will have to read speed limits for FSD.
The speed limit signs that show up where we live is a mess and sometimes the speed limits shown are off by 10mph on secondary roads (shows 45 when the limit is 35).
Agree with PhilDavid, for FSD to work without a driver present, it must react to current road conditions. While having cloud-based and on board speed and road data is useful for routing, when driving the vehicle must respond to current conditions, including speed limit or road/lane changes. Otherwise, FSD vehicles will never be able to operate safely in all areas - especially when construction or other temporary changes occur.
It's also not clear how FSD vehicles will handle police or other first responders manually managing traffic. Will the FSD software detect there is someone directing traffic - and will it be able to understand the visual and audible signals being provided to direct the vehicle to stop, move through the intersection or make an unplanned turn?
Any FSD system relying entirely on stored (onboard or cloud) databases to control driving (not just routing) will always encounter areas the software won't be able to handle - unless the systems are able to replicate what humans do by visually observing what's ahead and likely listening for signals indicating what may be out of view (emergency vehicles/train approaching).
It's also not clear how FSD vehicles will handle police or other first responders manually managing traffic. Will the FSD software detect there is someone directing traffic - and will it be able to understand the visual and audible signals being provided to direct the vehicle to stop, move through the intersection or make an unplanned turn?
Any FSD system relying entirely on stored (onboard or cloud) databases to control driving (not just routing) will always encounter areas the software won't be able to handle - unless the systems are able to replicate what humans do by visually observing what's ahead and likely listening for signals indicating what may be out of view (emergency vehicles/train approaching).
FSD will not work without detection of current road conditions, including speed limit/traffic signs/signals.
Either Tesla finds a way to workaround the patent - or they will have to pay for rights.
This will be true for every company trying to develop FSD - and others will be in a similar position, implementing their systems without using Mobileye's technology.
Either Tesla finds a way to workaround the patent - or they will have to pay for rights.
This will be true for every company trying to develop FSD - and others will be in a similar position, implementing their systems without using Mobileye's technology.
Brettski
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I’ve wondered how FSD would handle 25mph school zones - both during when children are heavily present, and when they’re not. (?)
How will they handle the cross-walk guards manually stopping traffic? They may blow a whistle and put their hand up while still on the sidewalk and then start walking across the street leading the kids.
Will the AP software detect this - or continue moving until someone is actually in the street?
For FSD to work without driver monitoring, it is much more than lane keeping and even reading street/traffic signs/lights...
Will the AP software detect this - or continue moving until someone is actually in the street?
For FSD to work without driver monitoring, it is much more than lane keeping and even reading street/traffic signs/lights...
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