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Y Performance Model- Looking for Insights
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Get the performance. It’s lower And looks way sportier. Who cares about range. You’ll get 280-290 miles per day if need be. When your tires are worn, switch to 265/40/21 and 295/40/21. The ride will be 100 times better without sacrificing the look. Yes looks matter. Hahaha
BitJam
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Thanks for the correction. I got most of the numbers from the article I linked to. It's also good to note that your acceleration may vary. Bearded Tesla Guy recently measured 0 60 for his M3LR with and without Acceleration Boost. The boost gave him less that a 0.5 second improvement because his base M3LR was faster than spec'ed.
Despite the fudges and inaccuracies I think the gist of the chart is still valid. A MYLR will be significantly faster than the OP's Honda Pilot. But the OP should take test drives to see what is best for them and if the extra acceleration and/or looks of the MYP are worth the reduced practicality.
Autonerds
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MYP was my first EV. Just wow. No regrets. Nothing else like it. A practical car with loads of cargo space and also a road wrinkling supercar. One year in now and no issues of significance. Zero battery degradation. A year later, same trips under same weather and conditions use the same battery percentage as when new. I am used to performance cars so the suspension and ride are what I expect... firm. Sticks to the road like nothing I have ever driven.
It does do weird things at times trying to be funny. Examples:
Turn signals quit ticking but still flashed. Cleared on next drive.
Lift gate opened up on its own when parked in the garage but didn’t hit anything. One off occurrence.
Was in night time mode for several miles in broad daylight so screen was not viewable. Switched on its own during drive.
Voice commands quit working with message not connected but it was connected. Streaming music and maps worked fine. Then no response at all from right button push. Did double nipple reboot. Still broken. Cleared on its own after a time.
Sometimes have to hit stalk twice to put in gear forward or backward.
Sometimes windows fail to roll up stopping and reversing a bit. Repeated attempts are sometimes required. This went away.
Once or twice, didn’t know it was home and locked itself when setup not to lock at home.
Messages often about side cameras blocked or blinded even when there is no reason. No dirt, condensation, sun, or darkness. No operational side effects. Resolved later with an update.
Takes things out of your pockets and deposits them in the back seat when accelerating.
Phantom braking. I have read about this but never experienced it. However, I don’t use AP anywhere but divided highways.
Auto wipers. Yeah, those are stupid. Come on often at inappropriate times. Perfectly sunny summer day it decides to make a horrible mess of the bugs on the windshield severely impacting visibility. Consider this a safety hazard. I turn them off in summer and avoid using AP for this reason because AP turns them back on. This summer, no real issues, so possible I got some improvements with an update.
Audio sources: Had been listening to a radio station and paused before parking. Next drive radio was on. Unable to pause, adjust volume or select another source, and it was playing the most annoying commercial with no way to shut it up. Got out, closed door, and got back in. All good.
It does do weird things at times trying to be funny. Examples:
Turn signals quit ticking but still flashed. Cleared on next drive.
Lift gate opened up on its own when parked in the garage but didn’t hit anything. One off occurrence.
Was in night time mode for several miles in broad daylight so screen was not viewable. Switched on its own during drive.
Voice commands quit working with message not connected but it was connected. Streaming music and maps worked fine. Then no response at all from right button push. Did double nipple reboot. Still broken. Cleared on its own after a time.
Sometimes have to hit stalk twice to put in gear forward or backward.
Sometimes windows fail to roll up stopping and reversing a bit. Repeated attempts are sometimes required. This went away.
Once or twice, didn’t know it was home and locked itself when setup not to lock at home.
Messages often about side cameras blocked or blinded even when there is no reason. No dirt, condensation, sun, or darkness. No operational side effects. Resolved later with an update.
Takes things out of your pockets and deposits them in the back seat when accelerating.
Phantom braking. I have read about this but never experienced it. However, I don’t use AP anywhere but divided highways.
Auto wipers. Yeah, those are stupid. Come on often at inappropriate times. Perfectly sunny summer day it decides to make a horrible mess of the bugs on the windshield severely impacting visibility. Consider this a safety hazard. I turn them off in summer and avoid using AP for this reason because AP turns them back on. This summer, no real issues, so possible I got some improvements with an update.
Audio sources: Had been listening to a radio station and paused before parking. Next drive radio was on. Unable to pause, adjust volume or select another source, and it was playing the most annoying commercial with no way to shut it up. Got out, closed door, and got back in. All good.
Just got a MYP this week. I had no idea that the tires are that expensive. (too excited to do any research before deciding) But I love the look. Yes. the look matters to me. Anyway what do you mean by switch to 265/40/21 and 295/40/21? Are you saying to get a set of aftermarket rims?
your stock tires are the reason why the MYP rides “uncomfortable” but don’t go out of your way to replace them yet. Just drive till they’re worn out then replace with bigger tires. The front is 265/40/21 and the rear is 295/40/21. Drives way more comfortable than a Long Range Model Y with standard 19 gemini.
I don't really see the relevance of who's driving it, whether you or your wife, but...
We had a 2020 MYLR w/20" Inductions, and now a 2022 MYP. First thing we did, with less than 3 miles, was swap to 18" aftermarket wheels. The 2022 MYP now has a more comfortable ride than the 2020 MYLR.
The MYP is a definite upgrade regarding launch feel, as well as a few extras like brake upgrade, spoiler, and aluminum brake/acceleration pedals. If none of that matters to either of you, save a few dollars and grab an MYLR (but still consider the 18" aftermarket wheels, as an alternative to upgrading to the Inductions).
Our MYP replaced a Suburban. Definitely a space downgrade, but we weren't really taking advantage of the Suburban anymore. Plus significant savings over the Suburban (huge car, not-great mpg). Just keep in mind: if you drive an MYP "normally" and don't spend all day launching, you shouldn't really see any difference in energy use over an MYLR.
Oh - in case you're interested in what the 18s look like on the Y: I posted a pic in another thread: Colored PPF?
We had a 2020 MYLR w/20" Inductions, and now a 2022 MYP. First thing we did, with less than 3 miles, was swap to 18" aftermarket wheels. The 2022 MYP now has a more comfortable ride than the 2020 MYLR.
The MYP is a definite upgrade regarding launch feel, as well as a few extras like brake upgrade, spoiler, and aluminum brake/acceleration pedals. If none of that matters to either of you, save a few dollars and grab an MYLR (but still consider the 18" aftermarket wheels, as an alternative to upgrading to the Inductions).
Our MYP replaced a Suburban. Definitely a space downgrade, but we weren't really taking advantage of the Suburban anymore. Plus significant savings over the Suburban (huge car, not-great mpg). Just keep in mind: if you drive an MYP "normally" and don't spend all day launching, you shouldn't really see any difference in energy use over an MYLR.
Oh - in case you're interested in what the 18s look like on the Y: I posted a pic in another thread: Colored PPF?
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Re: brakes. Found an article that says:
- All MYLR and MYP front calipers and rotors are identical save for the color
- MYPs up to ~9/2022 have Brembo rear calipers and 22mm rotors
- MYPs since ~9/2022 and MYLR rear calipers and rotors are identical save for a red cover on MYP
Unless you're going to track it, brakes don't matter. If you are, you'll need aftermarket brakes.
Good point on the referral...I understand it is $500 off.
I'm sure the $7500 rebate has been discussed at length on other threads but, to me, that makes a huge difference when buying these cars. Nice credit while it lasts and if one qualifies for it, I guess.
Well you would also have to pay the additional $1,500 to get the MYP performance in black so that puts the difference back to $2K. If you are interested in the acceleration boost add on for the MYLR, which costs $2k, then you’re back to no difference.
I recently traded a ‘21 MYLR in for a ‘23 MYP and love it. The ride is much better than the ‘21 but it’s still a bit rougher than an average car with tires that aren’t as low profile. I wanted the acceleration upgrade and don’t care that much about the ride; if that is a concern then later on I might research different wheels and tires.
Chewy13
https://ts.la/nick670348
Yeah it looks like it's $500 off on the MY, and 3 Months of full self driving.
If you don't have any friends w/ Teslas that can do a referral for you, I know a guy.. hah.
gx9901
Active Member
In my opinion, if the P's acceleration puts a bigger smile on you or your wife's face compared to the LR, get the P. If not, then probably just go with the LR and save the money. You can get aftermarket Uberturbine look-alikes and sell the Gemini wheels to another P owner if you want. It seems to be much easier to unload Gemini wheels than Uberturbines.
Once you understand what living with an EV is like, I personally think the range difference is negligible because if you do it right, neither version should ever induce range anxiety. And there's the supercharger network to alleviate charging anxiety if needed.
Once you understand what living with an EV is like, I personally think the range difference is negligible because if you do it right, neither version should ever induce range anxiety. And there's the supercharger network to alleviate charging anxiety if needed.
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My first Y was a 2020 LR. 4.8 sec was fast! Coming from a 3rd gen Prius. But I rode sport bikes for 20+ years. Done a few track days with a motorcycle.
I couldn’t help not paying up for the AB for $2k to get it to 4.2 sec. Obviously, it felt faster than stock 4.8 but only when ur SOC is above 70%. And it’s only that punch from 0-60. 60-80 is not much different.
But my 2022 P, it’s a punch at any SOC and over 60-80!
Just pay up and u will be 100% happy if u liked a super car feel in a family SUV.
My first Y was a 2020 LR. 4.8 sec was fast! Coming from a 3rd gen Prius. But I rode sport bikes for 20+ years. Done a few track days with a motorcycle.
I couldn’t help not paying up for the AB for $2k to get it to 4.2 sec. Obviously, it felt faster than stock 4.8 but only when ur SOC is above 70%. And it’s only that punch from 0-60. 60-80 is not much different.
But my 2022 P, it’s a punch at any SOC and over 60-80!
Just pay up and u will be 100% happy if u liked a super car feel in a family SUV.
Ppl always say. Buy what make u happy and don’t look back. Yolo!
It’s really not much more to get all the advantage of a P. Just make sure u get 19” wheels if u concern with range and tire life and tire cost.
If the P is over 60k, maybe not. for mid 50 and if u qualify for the tax credit , u will not regret it. Liked many happy P owners.
It’s really not much more to get all the advantage of a P. Just make sure u get 19” wheels if u concern with range and tire life and tire cost.
If the P is over 60k, maybe not. for mid 50 and if u qualify for the tax credit , u will not regret it. Liked many happy P owners.
According to Model Y manual, vehicles with staggered wheels and non-directional tires can be rotated side-to-side (left-to-right). Left-to-right rotation can increase tread life by changing the direction of rotation for each tire and balancing shoulder wear.
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