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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    We all have different risk profiles, goals, and life circumstances. I wanted to share my story because I'm sure there are others like me who went through some really difficult periods after the funding secured tweet and then Q1 2019. This is a long journey and we're in this together. Some of...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Thanks. I'll talk with IB and also TD Ameritrade and see I can get slightly lower margin rate. But my plan is to get off margin completely sometime this year. I contacted them before, but I didn't get a callback. But hearing about your positive experience, I might reach out to them again...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    If I sold 300 shares today, I could eliminate 100% of the margin debt. That would leave me with 1,000 shares and 2 DITM calls. And SPCE shares. All margin free. But like I said, I'm ok with $270k margin debt at the moment. I will eventually get rid of the margin debt. But as Tesla shares...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I agree. I went through tremendous amount of personal stress. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Being on maxed margin like that is rather foolish and super risky. Logic says I should've wiped out many times. 50% loss is 100% loss on max margin and like I said I was down to like $5k at the...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I don't want to needlessly sell mainly because of taxes. The short term gain taxes I would pay would far outweigh any margin interest savings I would get from changing brokers. I've been financing the monthly margin I pay by selling OTM covered calls. Because of the insane Tesla volatility...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I'm actually with TD and yes, I'm paying way too much compared to if I was with IB. I didn't know about IB until this year when couple people here mentioned using them as their broker. I wouldn't mind transferring my account to IB to get the lower margin rates but I don't know how I would do...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I've been paying like 9% margin interest on TSLA for almost 2 years now. I hate paying it but for me it was well worth it since TSLA stock price gained much more. I'm still on margin because I think I'll get higher return than the margin interest I pay. I'm not on full margin anymore like I...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You're confusing Alex Potter at Piper with Adam Jonas at Morgan Stanley. Alex has been bullish on Tesla for a long time. He's been somewhat conservative because he admits he doesn't know how to value the Tesla autotomy and solar business. But I think Alex is gaining the confidence because his...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I think Alex Potter at Piper Sandler gets and understands Tesla better than any other Wall Street analysts. Alex said on the Tesla Daily Podcast interview that he was going to install solar with Powerwalls at his house because he believed in the sustainable energy and also for "research...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Good morning and hello $900s! I'm back to being Tesla millionaire! Yay! Hopefully I can keep my promise to my wife and make it last more than half a day this time. :)
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I signed up for Tesla Solarglass roof and Powerwalls. The problem is Tesla has yet to install any solar or Powerwalls in Georgia and no one knows when that will change. I doubt it's going to happen this year.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I have Jan 2021 $300 and $420 calls I'm sitting on. They're so DITM that there's virtually no premium. So I'm just going to hold it til expiration and let it exercise when the time comes. I don't want to sell it now because of taxes and don't want to exercise now because I don't want to go...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    NYU prof sold his shares around $640 I believe. And for his value analysis model, he uses very conservative growth rate, margin, etc. If you adjust his model for the 50% growth rate Elon forecasts, you get $800+ price. Adjust couple more numbers up and the price goes over $1,000. So it just...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Welcome Back, @Right_Said_Fred! But in my mind you never left. ;) Trust me. Many of us know what you went through. I was a lurker, and I rode it down last year from $375 to $180 with you. It'll just take some time for you to get used to seeing such large $ balance in your portfolio. :D...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I see you're new like me. It's best to keep quiet and not clutter this useful thread with incorrect play-by-play minor stock price movement. We all have stock quotes.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I told my wife today, at least we were Tesla millionaire for like half a day. :) I told her I would try to make it last little longer next time. Maybe we can be Tesla millionaire for two days next time. At least I got the screenshot saved on my phone. But seriously, my wife and I know it's...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I'll tattoo anthonyj on my arm if that happens.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    David Einhorn is no longer short Tesla. He released Greenlight Capital investment letter today and there was no mention of TSLA anywhere in the letter. After all the public call out claiming TSLA was overvalued and cooking the books, I'm disappointed there's not even a sentence mentioning TSLA...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    For people arguing if $510 was the official Friday closing price or the $504 price afterhours, the options can settle on Friday afterhour price. Because the holders of the option have until noon on Saturday to exercise the option, the afterhour $504 was the price options settled at. So I would...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I know I keep talking about Adam Jonas but I finally found the story I read about Jonas forecast for 2020 Tesla deliveries he made in early 2016. In his research report he published on Feb 1, 2016, Jonas said he expected Tesla total unit deliveries to be 246,000 by 2020. This was in contrast...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Rob from Tesla Daily Podcast discussed yesterday's research report from Adam Jonas. Rob gives insight into what was said in the report. The modeling done by Jonas is complete joke and super amateurish. I can see why the market shrugged off the report once they actually read it. I think...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Adam Jonas is stupid, dishonest, or both. Look at the sales unit forecast for his financial model. It's laughable. He had Tesla making and selling 1.7 million cars in 2030 and just raised it to 2 million cars in this new report. We already know he's going to be crazy wrong by huge margin. I...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Jonas new range is $115 to $650. That's how he got his new $360 target price for TSLA. You can read some of his "research" points at article on ZeroHedge. I know that site is a joke but I read it daily just to keep up with all the fake news out there and for laugh. Tesla Plunges After...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I just checked TD Ameritrade help page and it said options in the money will be automatically exercised. So I won't have to do anything. "Expiring options will be automatically exercised if they are in-the-money by $0.01 or more as of the 3:00 p.m. CT price (for equity options) and 3:15 p.m...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The way I look at it is TSLA stock price was slowly headed to $500 today or tomorrow regardless if Adam Jonas issued his downgrade or not. His report and downgrade just sped up the time and the recovery process. Now we can consolidate at $500 and start our push to $600 sooner. I bought 2 more...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Didn't Adam Jonas put out research note right after Christmas during thin trading holiday week trying to push down Tesla stock? Or was it some other analyst? I remember Tesla had passed the important $420 price and was trading around $434 when one or two negative analyst reports came out that...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    S&P inclusion is not priced in. You're going to see the price move like you've never seen before once the news is announced.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Not me! I'm not tired of winning! In fact I need more winning.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I lost respect for him when he couldn't handle the drop last year and sold out his position. He was bad mouthing Tesla after he sold. Then after Tesla price recovered and stabilized from the low, Gerber began singing Tesla praises again. I watched couple TV interviews he did recently and all...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I watched the interview with Piper analyst Alex Potter and came away very impressed with his knowledge of China and felt like he really understood Tesla and its potential. I think he's even more bullish than even his raised $553 price target but want to save some ammo.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Spiegel didn't cover it voluntary. His broker covered for him. That's forced margin call covering. Just like when his broker forced covered for him from 20% to 10%. You think that lunatic Spiegel has any common sense to do that himself?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I'm seeing this statement from news feed. "Baird Downgrades Tesla to Neutral from Outperform; Lowers Price Target to $525 from $355." It doesn't even make sense since the old price target was at $355. How is $525 lower than $355? Ben Kallo is Baird analyst. He's husband of Melissa Lee of CNBC.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    They did but sold out around $240 on the drop to $180. I don't know if he got back in. He's a trader and not true long.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    My simple math says we're not stopping til $578. Why? I figure the shorts and weak longs pushed us down from $378 all the way to crazy low of $178. That was $200 drop. So adding $200 back to what they stole at $378 gives us $578 short term top. At least that's how I'm playing it. I was on...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Hi, I'm a lurker but finally decided to join. I just want to post a warning about options expiring tomorrow in case production and delivery report is released tomorrow afternoon after the market is closed. After-hours activity can move the stock from out of the money to in the money. People...