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I'd probably bet the YES just to root for something, but we all know that "NO" could easily be -800. Chances are pretty much as high as electrode implants reading your thoughts..

So... New Browser AP 2.0 Highway Speed? Auto Highbeams Auto Windshield Wipers Anything else?

I lol'd at work over MST

Correctamundo. My AP 2.0 has eight cameras with one currently functioning. AP enables 1 EAP enables 4 FSD supposedly will enable all 8. Software only. The hardware is all there.

Excuse me, the cameras are already in the cars. THIS IS PURELY A SOFTWARE UPDATE.

Snapchat was 3 guys in one room with one server for a long time, how much did IBM spend on Watson? Which one does the market value higher right now?

It is my understanding that our cost is $4k post delivery no matter what. They can't give you the option to skip it for $1k more, and then bait and switch and say oh now it's a $7k option tough luck...

Link us to the debunking please. I can't imagine fleet learning is a total hoax.

For the record, my post here is not exactly to gripe, and the tone of my writing might be more due to my overall pessimistic NY upbringing, however.. the thing im really thinking about with all of this is: Why make FDSC an option now, when they could just as easily make it a software upgrade...

For someone who criticized the existence of this thread... you really seem to be enjoying yourself here. :)

Yes, yes... however, Musk didn't sell you the Roadster for 75% of the price non-refundable before finishing the design... like FSD.

Let me ask you. What are you doing on forum if not to share ideas and ask other people's opinions?

They are not charging for hardware that is in the car. They are charging for software that is not currently in use, nor will be in use in the near future.

As a Model S owner who purchased EAP on AP2 hardware, I wanted to know everyone's thoughts on FSDC. FSDC is currently a $3,000 option ($4,000 after taking delivery). Is this really fair? Tesla is charging $3,000 for an option that doesn't exist and will clearly not exist in the near-term...

I am one of the very lucky ones, a true unicorn: Model S 60D Pre-November Price Hike AP 2.0 Hardware (EAP-Enabled) Free Supercharging Next Gen Seats were switched to Tesla Premium Seats after ordering / prior to delivery Vented seats on Tesla Premium Seats (feature added post ordering / removed...

The next Tesla should get wrapped with a brown vinyl and named WALL-E

Amen, it's really 75D owners that should be embarrassed. If they weren't going for the best value why not pony up for the big dog P models.

As a 60D owner, "issa no from me dawg". 60D give you max charge @100% for 62 and change Kwh, 75D give you a max @ 90% for ~67.5 Kwh. Not worth the money for ~5Kwh

Looks like my suspicions are at least somewhat confirmed... :) Definitely agree with @jelloslug 60/60D likely introduced to prop sales prior to Model 3, now removed to increase differentiation. My intuition tells me Tesla was selling very few 75/75D despite what they said in the email.

In light of the cancellation of the Model S 60 and 60D, and Tesla's explanation of why it was cancelled (low 60&60D sales), I thought it would be good to take a poll. So... of the buyers of Model S 60s and 75s, which one did you purchase? Full disclosure, I bought a 60D :)

Having just received my Model S 60D last weekend, I must say I'm thrilled I made the cut. Considering speed and power is on par with the 75D (same car), the 60D struck me as great value for the money. Perfect for my max round trips which is from CT to Manhattan at around 55 miles each way, and...

Yes, there probably will be Model S updates, but I would expect them to come on par with 3 launch or slightly after. I have to imagine there is really only one train of thought at Tesla right now, the companies lives and dies by Model 3. I'm sure the Model S/X is not getting so much love over...

I'll be happy to throw my 2¢ in on this issue... I just took delivery on my first Tesla last weekend (!) I got a 2017 Model S 60D [ AP 2.0 Hardware / EAP Enabled / Full Auto Not Enabled ] I must admit, while the car is truly incredible on the whole... I am disappointed with the suite of...

I'm not sure what the details are on this so far or what is out there. But I'll share my experience, which will hopefully help some people. I ordered on 11/8/16, and was told I was approved for a lease the next day. I received a letter on 11/22 from US Bank saying I was denied for a lease. I'm...

@siraj AWESOME!!! Thanks!!!! I ordered the same combo but with the 19" slipstream regular wheels :/ Looking good though!

I guess i'm leaning towards solid then, because I really want it to be that really rich glossy black esp at night, and i plan on trying to keep it cleaned / waxed often..

Hi All, Anyone have any thoughts on the solid non-metallic black, vs the metallic black paint? Anyone have any experience with pros and cons of either? Thanks!

Thanks for the feedback!

Hi all, I placed an order payment on a new 60D, but I am second guessing myself on color choices. Does anyone have some in real life pics of the following car, or something very close to it? FLAT BLACK EXTERIOR / TAN NEXT GEN INTERIOR / BLACK HEADLINER w/ pano would be even more helpful...

Ah, that would explain it then, wouldn't it... Thanks!

Hi all, I'm sure this is going to sound like a stupid question to most of you.. I am test driving the 60D all day today (however I have driven Model S's many times and am very familiar with the car and interface), and on the highway I can't drive faster than 80 mph. I have checked through all...

Placed my order payment last night. Thank you everyone!

Hi All, I am very new to all this, but I am seriously thinking about ordering a 60D with an MSRP of about $89,000. I've been giving a quote by one of the Tesla salespeople in Freemont via email (we have chatted back and forth quite a bit). My quote is around $1,211 with a down payment of...