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green1
Active Member
In all these monster threads, I've forgotten if this was discussed: Even if the kernel is redone so the browser is technically 'better', how good can it get if everything is proxied back to the bottleneck of the mothership? Isn't that the *real* issue currently and forever for browser performance?Its been so long since 8.1 was first announced I forgot what we were supposed to get
"Classics" can look forward to a new browser, yay.
I lol'd at work over MSTIt's called MST (Musk Standard Time).
Happily while he oft times gets the dates wrong they always seem to happen eventually.
Ok, back to staring at my modem, waiting for the new release to get to my car.
Now all we know is that it will not be Tuesday/Wednesday or any sooner.
At least Elon is getting smarter by not saying this or next Tuesday. Now his only goal is to release it on a Tuesday or a Wednesday (which he will also probably not do).
At least Elon is getting smarter by not saying this or next Tuesday. Now his only goal is to release it on a Tuesday or a Wednesday (which he will also probably not do).
Cyclone
Cyclonic Member ((.oO))
My understanding was that DNS lookups go back to the motherships and select traffic goes to the mothership, not everything. But basically, the DNS lookups handle the majority of controlling what does/does not go through home.
steve841
Active Member
Thanks! That definitely is different from it all goes back through the filter....
If you browse to www.ipchicken.com, you'll see the IP of whatever infrastructure is getting you routed to the Internet. You can look that IP up at arin.net.
When on 3/4G, most traffic does seem to be proxied through some 3rd party system. That doesn't necessarily mean the experience is automatically worse though. Depends on the infrastructure. When on the road on 3/4G, I usually get an IP that maps back a company called Jasper in CA.
When on Wifi, most traffic seems to go direct. If you're at home on Wifi, you should see an IP that belongs to your ISP when you browse to ipchicken. And from extensive packet captures I've taken on my Wifi, I can say that most, if not all, of DNS requests just go to the local router. More details are probably buried in other forum posts.
Also a kernel upgrade by itself is unlikely to make any sort of decent performance increase for the browser unless there was an obscure issue. I think it's more likely that 8.1 is complete system update - a kernel update, supporting OS updates, and some application upgrades (some that you see and some that you can't see). If that's true, they probably had a huge challenge with regressions and thus delays.
Cyclone
Cyclonic Member ((.oO))
Thanks. I know there was lots of discussion in the 6.1 days about traffic monitoring and obviously it wasn't important enough (to me) to remember years later, or it has changed.
Capability for AP to take on/off ramps with navigation I believe?
Dborn
Confirmed
Do you have "L" plates on learner drivers cars in the USA? We do in Australia. Does this say something in relation to the post above?
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
DiamondHands
Member
Really looking forward to 8.1 like everyone else here.
I'm really hoping the new update will put an end to my unstable / wavy / dancing road guidelines. Seeing those lines move around, while driving myself or in AP mode, doesn't inspire much confidence.
Also, unlike AP1 hardware cars I've been in, my HW2 isn't consistently picking up cars to either side of me, or in front of me. It's rather bizarre, HW2 will track a car in front of me, then all of a sudden make it disappear. Even at stoplights. And unlike HW1, my HW2 doesn't consistently show the second car ahead of me. Family and I wanting to do a road trip in a few weeks, I could really use AP to back me up.
I'm really hoping the new update will put an end to my unstable / wavy / dancing road guidelines. Seeing those lines move around, while driving myself or in AP mode, doesn't inspire much confidence.
Also, unlike AP1 hardware cars I've been in, my HW2 isn't consistently picking up cars to either side of me, or in front of me. It's rather bizarre, HW2 will track a car in front of me, then all of a sudden make it disappear. Even at stoplights. And unlike HW1, my HW2 doesn't consistently show the second car ahead of me. Family and I wanting to do a road trip in a few weeks, I could really use AP to back me up.
I look forward to the browser upgrade to Netscape 2003 and Alta Vista search engine...
