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Is here any owner of Model Y from Giga Berlin? Does anyone know how is the fit&finish and overall build quality of these cars? I am eager to pull the trigger and buy one but still waiting to hear more about cars from this factory.

Holy mother of all ****s. I cant bealive they didnt improve a bit at soundproofing in nearly 10 years of making model S. If this is true than X plaid will sux as well. Then I will have to choose other car. I sat in EQS. Its like sitiing in a tomb compared to my current 2017 X.

Well. We all know that noise canceling simply cannot provide the same comfort as good soundproofing. Thats not an opinion, thats physics. I still hope the new X will have signicantly quiter cabin. Otherwise I would have to buy some other EV. And with opening SCH network to other brands, this...

That sux. Cabin noise is one of the most important parameter in any car. Its a such a shame tesla does not care. I have borrowed an X. Its a perfect car…..it has just 1 flaw. Its like driving a car with a vacuum cleaner running inside. Cant spend so much money on such a disconfort :( Also in our...

I saw that and its quite stupid test. Insulating sound outside the stationary car is absolutely different than tire and wind noise when car is moving. Therefore that test is uselss. I saw a yourube video where they measured with decibel metter while driving and it showed 70dBA at loudest...

I cannot find any comment about the sound insulation of the new model S (and now model X). How is it? Is it better than the old one? I am not talking about the noise cancelation. Can anyone share his experience at high speeds? Is it finaly coming close to the silence of Mercs and BMWs?

It costs around 2.5k$. Do you guys thinks its a worthy upgrade for the price on my 2017 X?

You can just cover whole set of buttons on the right side of the yoke with your palm to turn on horn. No need to look for the button.

The boot space and no SCH kills Tycan for me need S

Whats going on? Where are these cars? People want new S or X and they cant get any :( Its great Tesla made a refresh but If I knew it will take another year for deliveries to start I would not be so hyped. I have S on order here in Europe and they says it should arrive at November. However after...

Hi guys. I have currently ordered new Model S and Model X and I will decide which one to take once deliveries nears. We have 2 small kids and a dog. We are annualy making a very long roadtrips(1800 miles). What I would like to know is, if you think Model S will serve us well as a family car? How...

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Can someone explain? Did they changed something? Because I saw a lot of videos where just morning dew was pouring into the cabin and you have none in fcking rain?

The only reason why I dont buy X are FW doors. I saw a videos of rain/snow falling in. Doors are slow. Doors not closing. Doors not opening in winter. Doors hurting kid libs and fingers. Doors hitting people when opening etc. I want to know from owners. Do you like your FW doors?

Just wondering. What is the advantage of this type of stearing wheel? If we ignore the “cool factor” that it is simply different. All I can think of is a better visibility on the display in front of driver. Anything else?

Guys thanks for amazing info. This helped me a lot. I am leaning towards the S. Too bad that nobody has the refreshed version yet to give impression.

Well I cant test drive model Y. As I said I am from europe

I am ok with one

Guys. I need help. I am going to buy Tesla and I am still not sure if I should go for new redesigned Model S or wait for Model Y from Berlin. We have just one kid and will have probably second in future. We do annual winter trips from Czech republic to Spain (3000km/1860mi trip) so comfy and...

Guys. I need help. I am going to buy Tesla and I am still not sure if I should go for new redesigned Model S or wait for Model Y from Berlin. We have just one kid and will have probably second in future. We do annual winter trips from Czech republic to Spain (3000km/1860mi trip) so comfy and...

Well the used S/X would be probably out of warranty and I am scared to own such an expensive car without warranty. Also we know how Tesla service is....

Hi there guys. I am in a dire need for a car. I will have to buy one in a next 3 months. Originaly I expected to be able to buy TMY as soon as it gets to Europe. However recently Elon tweeted that TMY will get to Europe only after GF Berlin is ready. So this is too late for me. Now I am not...

Thanks a lot! For anyone browsing this thread here is a copy&paste, looks good so far. Honestly too good to be true :)

Still noone who can take his phone into the cabin and do measurements? It takes 15minutes. Jeeez.

Please anyone who have TMY. Test the noise levels in cabin and let us know if it has any improvements compared to TM3. This is my only worry about TMY. Otherwise it looks superb in every way!

I guess you must be new here. Tesla did this numerous times before. Changing prices, discontinuing trims with model 3. In this case it is non issue as they discontinued RWD before any of them were made so it will not hurt anyone. You can upgrade to AWD to stay in a queue or you can get your...

TM3 AWD has 322mi

I think RWD is canceled as it was for TM3

Hi, I love TMY. Finaly perfect car from Tesla. All issues I had with TM3 are fixed on Y. Only thing I am a little bit dissapointed is that TMY will be the Tesla with lowest range of all models. I hoped for some bigger battery options as the barely 300 miles range does not impress me. It wont be...

Exactly. I am surprised how fast I am getting used to the design and actually starting to like it. And I also thought it was a bad joke when I saw it for the first time. Now I am already able to imagine myself driving it around without being embarrassed :D ... like musk on stage when the window...

Where did you get this absolutely false information. Link please

Loool. We have dozens superchargers in our country for years as well as service center and Tesla is giving us a big middle finger. I cannot buy TM3 after 3 years of waiting in queue. I already canceled my reservation and wish Tesla the worst for treating us like a trash.

Yes, Tesla simply lied to us. The deposit was useless. I will ask for a refund. Probably Tesla will become bankrupt anyway before we could get our hands in TM3.

Yes, there is a Tesla service center in Prague. However nothing changed with TM3. Cannot order it, no estimate when it will be available. Only webpage which says "Early 2019" .... will be June soon :) ... this is becoming pathetic, sorry Tesla.

There is a flaw in a reasoning that Tesla has a difficulty because of bureaucrats in eastern EU countries. If I remember correctly when S and X was released for EU, the "other Europe" got them in a same time as the western Europe. So there is no reason why this is not possible for TM3. Yes...

No, you cant order it from different country, Tesla do not allow this. As for being hysterical. It is not that we do not get the car as soon as other Europe does, we DO NOT KNOW when we can expect to get the car. It is not like there are bottlenecks, or that they did not start delivering to EU...

Warning rant incoming! Hello, I am a long Tesla fan. Stock owner since S was released and checking Tesla news each day ever since. I put a 1k$ deposit on TM3 on 31.April 2016, took a trip abroad and stood in a line. I am very patient guy. When TM3 started selling in US 2017, I thought great...

Well, taking a 30 years long debt and calling it an investment is beyond me. Appriciation of US properies in last 30 years is basicaly covering the inflation. If you are paying the mortage upon that you will be in red numbers. If you think about it it must be this way because if the prices were...

Dont be naive :)

Reading this made me happy I bought iPhone X. Looking forward to my TM3!

Why every sudden acceleration case starts like this : “My wife went to shopping...she swears she haven’t done anything, it was the car’s fault!”. I guess we all know what is going on here :)

Ok, so I decided I have enough waiting for TM3 (here in europe as non-owner I will get mine in late 2019, I guess). I have the money for S but I cannot get rid of feeling that current S is overdue for refesh and commiting 100k $ for this car seems wrong. Event the X has better interior and the 3...

This free supercharging is psychological confusion for many people. If you do the math you find out that you will pay probably something like 2k$ for the lifetime of the TM3 ownereship( we are tlaking about 2k$ dispersed over 5 years which is nothing). Then you can ask yourself if it is even...

Wrong. Cryptocurrency is NOT a just currency. You are right that US dollar as “dumb” currency has no value because it is just paper blessed with human confidence in it. Thats all it is. However crypocurrency is completely different breed. It is mainly computer code, the internet protocol which...

Did not read whole discussion. But problem here is that OP do not need TM3. He claims to use his ICE for long trips. Then you can can buy whatever EV you want, even Leaf is sufficient enough. However I want TM3 as the ONLY car and want to road-trip through Europe with it ( 5000km trips)...

Sry but to me you are trying to reason the purchase of your overpiced S. The reason I think this is that everytime I see people writing only the cons of the “honest test” it means thay want to look only for bad things and overlook the good. Same goes oposite. Thats how human psychology works...

Lol. Nice fun fact :) Thanks god I have plenty of BTC from 2011-2012. Anyway the lightning network is in works and already runing testnets, so not so much work has to be done for faster cheaper transactions. Never underestinate bitcoin. People hoped that bitcoin could reach 2k$ at 2017 ( was at...

Lol. I had to laught. You are obviously new to the crypto world. Well, let me tell you. I have been to crypto since 2011. Bitcoin seen like DOZENS of dips like these. Honsestly this December dip is one of the weakest. We have seen 80%+ dips regularly. Eg. 13$ to 2$. 30$ to 3$$. 1200$ to 120$. So...

I dont get what you are trying to say here at all. Bitcoin is not fragment or anything its just a name for an internet protocol.

Seems like noone is interested. Now try it with Bitcoin. I will sell you TM3 for 1,000,000 bitcoins. Seems like Bitcoin has some real value afterall :)