Garlan Garner
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Tesla has sold over 1 million cars.
I call 11,000 a small sample size.
But....to each his own.
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Tesla has sold over 1 million cars.
I call 11,000 a small sample size.
But....to each his own.
Garlan Garner
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I'm at home doing nothing.
Tired of watching pandemic stuff on TV.
This is a much better discussion.
and...
when I want to go to sleep....I count unsold BMW EV's instead of sheep.
All joking aside.....Truthfully though.....that's a shame. I'm an EV'er no matter what the brand.
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I think the new graphics without having purchased FSD is possibly a temporary preview, so people can try it out and decide if they want to make the plunge. I assume this would not be something they would be able to keep using without making an upgrade purchase at some point. However, I do have EAP, so would like for the advanced graphics to stay as part of that package, but I'm sure, even for me, it will be just a preview.
Knightshade
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Your reply makes no sense.
Some folks are getting 2020.8.3 right now.
Which only began to roll out after a 2020.12 and 2020.12.0.2 and 2020.12.1 were rolling out (and continue to roll out for 2020.12.1)
Why would they be creating, let alone pushing, ANY 8.x update if 12.x was the "current" level everyone should (eventually) be getting, even if there's a geographic rollout?
They wouldn't.
They just be pushing 12.x to any of those people, instead of 8.3
I noticed this after the 2020.8.3 update, but then after I check my Drive settings it was set to Chill mode and not Sport mode. Once I set it back to Sport mode it was back to it's peppy self!
Knightshade
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Time for a stats class
11,000 is a HUGE sample size.
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For a population of 1 million, with a 2% margin of error and a 99% confidence level you only need a sample size of 4128.
11000 doesn't QUITE get you down to 1% margin of error (that'd require 16307 sample size) but it's closer to 1% than 2% with 11k.
Ours updated to 12.1 a week or so ago, and just today got 8.3. I dunno... Still a newb, had the car 2 whole weeks now, but the update numbers going backwards doesn't make sense.
Never heard of an update going backwards! That doesn't seem right to me. Maybe others in this forum have heard of such a thing, but I have not in the short time that I've owned my Tesla. If it were me, I would call Tesla and ask them why it went backwards.
linux-works
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its not necessarily backwards.
tesla may be using week numbers for versions, but that does not negate the fact that developers check out multiple trees, do different things in them and sometimes a tree just goes back and its easier to just scrap it.
my guess is that the 12 tree was not ready or not worth bringing forward for most cars. who knows why, they don't tell us this detail.
but its not 'backwards'. the best tree is chosen to move forward. its how modern software dev works.
tesla may be using week numbers for versions, but that does not negate the fact that developers check out multiple trees, do different things in them and sometimes a tree just goes back and its easier to just scrap it.
my guess is that the 12 tree was not ready or not worth bringing forward for most cars. who knows why, they don't tell us this detail.
but its not 'backwards'. the best tree is chosen to move forward. its how modern software dev works.
I work for a very large computer company and deal with many different FW components and have never seen a customer case where the version went backwards as an update! Not saying that it might not be necessary to go backwards to avoid an issue or what not, but moving someone from .12 to .8 without indicating why, leaves them with only one way to perceive what happened as being a downgrade. Without being able to compare the 2 versions and understand the changes, it's to hard to determine, but it would be perceived as a downgrade without knowing the "why."
linux-works
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not unusual at all. you try a few feature branches, some dont work out, too much work to merge the good parts with the mainline so you abandon the tree.
maybe its not a horrible tree, but maybe there's a better one.
low(ish) on manpower - just abandon a branch and move on.
does not phase me in the least. maybe I'm in the minority, and I don't dont read anything at all in increasing numbers. regressions happen ALL the time.
maybe its not a horrible tree, but maybe there's a better one.
low(ish) on manpower - just abandon a branch and move on.
does not phase me in the least. maybe I'm in the minority, and I don't dont read anything at all in increasing numbers. regressions happen ALL the time.
linux-works
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LOL. Of course it doesn’t phase you. You’re obviously a dev, or a serious hobbyist. That’s not an insult. Many devs can think In a non-liner manner. But since the updates are visible to the customer, it’s just sloppy (as is the whole Tesla update process for the most part) because of the perception it creates.
I'm at home doing nothing.
when I want to go to sleep....I count unsold BMW EV's instead of sheep.
All joking aside.....Truthfully though.....that's a shame. I'm an EV'er no matter what the brand.
this is why BMW CEO quit. Clown mobile EVthat's more expensive the 3 !
Well...this will be the feature we have all been waiting for. Courtesy of the Eshak Mir twitter
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Garlan Garner
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Well...this will be the feature we have all been waiting for. Courtesy of the Eshak Mir twitter
Eshak Mir on Twitter
Excellent!! What software version is this?
when I want to go to sleep....I count unsold BMW EV's instead of sheep.
Thats a Chinese EV styled after the Daimler/Benz owned Smart car.
You guys really did drink the koolaid. Wow.
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