2021 Model 3 and differences from 2020

[panpan1]

So, what are you trying to tell us? Personally, I like that trend and I hope it continues.

 

[jaqueh]

So, what are you trying to tell us? Personally, I like that trend and I hope it continues.

Although I do find this car quite expensive, I do think there is a certain perceived premium in being apart of the luxury class of automobiles. If they trend too far down the food chain, I likely will move onto another brand in the future. Especially as their EV alternatives get more competitive.

 

[natman316]

After all they have already come down since 2017?

A P3D in was $75k with options in 2018, now it's $55k with AP included.

My own LR RWD in 2018 was $49k with no AP, now an AWD with AP is $47K

I am guessing tax credits? As nice as this car is there is no way I’d spend 75k on one...

 

[KristianM3P]

Sold my 75D after 3 years. Bought a 2021 Model 3P. Took delivery 23.desember. 5hr Christmas roadtrip and no issues with heat pump. Outside temps down to -27C / -16.6F and the heat pump was fine. 5hr home again after a few days, and the car got cold on the last leg. Had the car in for service today, and it was a 2hr job, changing 3 sensors. Two PT sensor #high pressure# and 1 PT sensor low pressure. Heater is acting like it should. So far, so good. Car is perfect, with no issues.

 

[phil_m3p]

coc arrived today (estimated delivery: feb 2021)
Model 3 Performance, differences to December 2020

NEW
Type Approval: e4*2007/46*1293*14
Type Version: E3LD
Type Variant: PGp2s5N

OLD
Type Approval: e4*2007/46*1293*13
Type Version: E3D
Type Variant: Pp2s5N

 

[eivissa]

And in addition to Phil's Update, here is the "change log" for v14:

 

[TBrownTX]

And in addition to Phil's Update, here is the "change log" for v14:
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Does this confirm updated door panels, and no heated steering wheel (unless already there, but not activated) for US versions in Q1 2021?

Tim

 

[Npap]

And in addition to Phil's Update, here is the "change log" for v14:
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Does this mean that even the EU version of model 3 LR will now have the 2170L battery?

 

[eivissa]

-This confirms the updated door panels for the EU Model 3 produced after the 28th of December 2020. Surely this will also be the case for the US, but that part remains speculation.
-The 2021 LR Models on delivery in the next weeks were all E5D (LG) and E3CD (Panasonic 2170C).
Only the Performance seems to have gotten that 2170L 82KWH Pack so far and I belive Tesla will be coming with something like a Long Range Plus (parallel to Model S) in the coming weeks/months which will then have the 82KWH battery with 2170L cells and 600+km of WLTP range.

Just speculation, as the 82 KWH battery is actually too large for the current WLTP numbers, which can be met with the smallest LG battery.

 

[FredMt]

so far and I belive Tesla will be coming with something like a Long Range Plus (parallel to Model S) in the coming weeks/months which will then have the 82KWH battery with 2170L cells and 600+km of WLTP range.

I hope a LR+ for several month too , perhaps it will become reality !
With different price as standard LR, so no need to fit with LG E5D capacity.
On paper now LR+ variant exist it s E3LD !

 

[Turntable666]

Humm thinking of pushing out my M3LR delivery to the May so I can get a clearer picture of this battery confusion , I have time to wait, no rush as lock down seems to be here till June at least.

 

[TBrownTX]

-This confirms the updated door panels for the EU Model 3 produced after the 28th of December 2020. Surely this will also be the case for the US, but that part remains speculation.
-The 2021 LR Models on delivery in the next weeks were all E5D (LG) and E3CD (Panasonic 2170C).
Only the Performance seems to have gotten that 2170L 82KWH Pack so far and I belive Tesla will be coming with something like a Long Range Plus (parallel to Model S) in the coming weeks/months which will then have the 82KWH battery with 2170L cells and 600+km of WLTP.

Would those EU cars have been produced in the US, or China?

Tim

 

[eivissa]

Would those EU cars have been produced in the US, or China?

Tim

The LR and P for the EU continue to be produced on in Fremont. Only the SR+ came from China in the last month's. Even that seems to shift back to the US production as the SR+ gets the new Panasonic cells too.

 

[FredMt]

Tesla VIN number could give some indication about battery pack installed.

As you can see on digit 7 :
../..
F : LFP ( to know if SR+ has Pana or CATL)
H : Li-Ion Hight capacity (2170L?)
V: Li-Ion Ultra hight capacity (for future?)
../..

Cf VIN decoder matrix:
Tesla vehicle VIN number Decoder

 

[jaqueh]

Tesla VIN number could give some indication about battery pack installed.

As you can see on digit 7 :
../..
F : LFP ( to know if SR+ has Pana or CATL)
H : Li-Ion Hight capacity (2170L?)
V: Li-Ion Ultra hight capacity (for future?)
../..

Cf VIN decoder matrix:
Tesla vehicle VIN number Decoder
View attachment 631079

According to this I have E battery and 1 motor. That doesn’t make sense.

 

[FredMt]

View attachment 631081
According to this I have E battery and 1 motor. That doesn’t make sense.

You re right, motor indication is wrong. But perhaps ok for digit 7 ?

 

[Turntable666]

You re right, motor indication is wrong. But perhaps ok for digit 7 ?

Looks to me that your 7 digit is an E your eighth is a B , two motors?

 

[FredMt]

Looks to me that your 7 digit is an E your eighth is a B , two motors?

It's right for this 2 digits of VIN .
Cf. meaning of individual digits of the 17-digit number in the link above.
(Last update of values: November 5, 2020)

 

[TimothyHW3]

WLTP which can be met with the smallest LG battery.

No, it cannot, I tested the efficiency and there is no difference 19/2020 vs 2021, hence it can't meet the same range due to less capacity. And it most certainly can't exceed that range by 20km.

 

[eivissa]

No, it cannot, I tested the efficiency and there is no difference 19/2020 vs 2021, hence it can't meet the same range due to less capacity. And it most certainly can't exceed that range by 20km.

You can make these claims over and over again, but it won't make a difference as a post in some forum.
If you think you have solid proof then go ahead and sue Tesla.