I do! My deductible is only $200 as well, so it won't hurt too much financially.
But will go on your record as being at fault, will come back to haunt you at renewal time.
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I do! My deductible is only $200 as well, so it won't hurt too much financially.
Literally this exact same scenario happened to me yesterday. On an off ramp that was going around a curve and the lane was wide like that one. Car in front of me was hugging the inside curve, going slow like in this footage. My car started to accelerate and acted like it was going to try to pass that car on its left, but there wasn't nearly enough room. There was about as much room as in this video. If I hadn't taken over I'm pretty sure it would've hit.
For reference, I have the latest update pushed by mobile service last week (2019.8.3).
I agree that that is how it works now, (although automatic braking does work in low speeds in stop & go traffic), but why can't AEB be applied at slower speeds, and avoid impacts altogether (as opposed to reducing impact). It always knows relative speeds and distance.AEB doesn’t activate a low speeds. It’s only designed to slow the car when moving fast to reduce impact.
Seems like AP was not engaged.
Sorry, where is this list of "bugs" in 8.3? Haven't experienced that yet...
Just to clarify in advance, this accident is completely my fault as I dozed off behind the wheel after a long day at work and very little sleep the night before, and it's my responsibility to maintain control of the car at all times, but I am concerned that the car didn't stop in this situation as is advertised in EAP features.
I was on a single lane highway interchange in relatively high traffic so speeds were slow, I'm guessing that we were below 30MPH as the airbags didn't deploy. In the attached videos, you can see that my Model 3 didn't veer in either direction to avoid the accident and it obviously didn't slow down. I think the glare from the sun might have played a role in not recognizing the brake lights of the Forrester in front of me, but I would think that the radar sensors would have picked up the rapidly closing distance between the car in front of me and my car.
I emailed Tesla, but haven't received a response yet. I am planning on taking the car in on Monday to get it repaired and I'm hoping they can download the data to see what might have happened.
My intention in sharing is that many of you will be more attentive when using EAP and don't be a dummy like me and fall asleep behind the wheel.
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Seems like the automatic emergency braking should have prevented this whether the autopilot was on or off.
I understand, but it didn't look like the car even tried to slow down.AEB is not designed to prevent collisions, only to reduce the severity of them.
Not normally, I try to keep it closer to the brake instead of the accelerator, I figure that's safer.
But will go on your record as being at fault, will come back to haunt you at renewal time.
I disagree. This looks exactly like an accident I caused, were I dozed off in stop and go traffic in a "normal" car, thus without any autopilot and were I rearended another car. I came awake, when I heard my car crashing into the car in front. I think by resting his hand on the wheel, he OP must have inadvertantly ,turned of autopilot and his foot must have been, on the accelarator because you see the car picking up speed and going straight ahead. Im pretty sure no braking was done at all by the OP to just the last second, when he already hit the car in front of him. (after that I swore never to do any of those microsleeps again, no matter what, you think you will be awake by the time that the trraffic wil stop again, but you really dont)After reviewing the video a few times, it does look like AP was still active.
Vehicle 1 (the OP's vehicle), was still perfectly centred in his lane around a bend in the road. If AP disengaged then vehicle 1 would have ceased to follow the curve in the road and would have proceeded straight into the guardrail rather than into vehicle 2.
Additionally, since vehicle 1's driver (the OP), claims to have dosed off, AP would have begun beeping like crazy before disengaging, thus arousing the OP from his slumber. AP doesn't just disengage without warning.
From the evidence I can see at this time, this looks like a failure of the AP system. The only thing that could change this determination would be additional data showing that the driver of vehicle 1 hit the accelerator before impact. But I don't believe this to be the case as there is no video evidence showing that vehicle 1 lurched forward from an unexpected accelerator hit.
Sorry.. previous Police and private investigator here. These are observations from my professional opinion. I could be wrong with additional information presented.. but I think my determination is correct.
I think its a good case, why a eyetracker would be a good thing. When the car detects that your eyes are closed, it would then at least begin trying to get you awake again, by beeping, etc... Im not so sure, if it also then should begin taking over control from you, suppose that like it seems to be in this case, where the OP inadverantly disabled autopilot. Should autopilot refuse, to have the autopilot disabled in that case. What about a accident , that would happen, after autopilot has denied to let a sleeping driver disable autopilot. Who would be in error, tesla or you. I would say still you offcourse, you shouldnt have dozed off, but it opens a can of worms, that even tesla will be afraid to open.I disagree. This looks exactly like an accident I caused, were I dozed off in stop and go traffic in a "normal" car, thus without any autopilot and were I rearended another car. I came awake, when I heard my car crashing into the car in front. I think by resting his hand on the wheel, he OP must have inadvertantly ,turned of autopilot and his foot must have been, on the accelarator because you see the car picking up speed and going straight ahead. Im pretty sure no braking was done at all by the OP to just the last second, when he already hit the car in front of him. (after that I swore never to do any of those microsleeps again, no matter what, you think you will be awake by the time that the trraffic wil stop again, but you really dont)
1. Driver fell asleep in AP, presumably no touching of brakes or accelerator
2. Radar [?] tracking of lead car erroneously merged into the second car ahead, AP thinks it has more space and tries to close the gap
3. AEB failed because lead car was partially offside in curve
Except one out of the 4 they tested did... The Subaru.FWIW, this is from C&D, November, 2018. Note that no car they tested, including Tesla, would stop from 30 mph or above.
Automated-Emergency-Braking Systems Don't Always Work - Test Results
Except one out of the 4 they tested did... The Subaru.