Here's a longer review:
2022 Lucid Air Dream Edition R Exclusive First Drive: Mic Drop!
Lucid Motors’ excellent electric luxury sedan—its first-ever car, by the way—is absolutely a serious threat to Tesla and other luxury carmakers.www.motortrend.com
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Totally agree! It is absolutely hideous! Everything from the stupid two-tone color scheme to the rear and the front ends, in fact, it doesn't even look good from a profile angle with these weird lines on the lower bumper. And talk about odd panel gaps
The only thing that looks nice, IMO, is the line and indentation on the doors that give it that wide body look."Money cannot buy taste" is certainly true in the case of this thing.
RobDickinson
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Lucid is an odd one, not yet proven to be able to scale up production (their tech certainly is nice), but who are the customers?
Its almost certainly going to be better than the EQS but can they tempt buyers away from that and the S class etc?
Its almost certainly going to be better than the EQS but can they tempt buyers away from that and the S class etc?
dhanson865
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Until Tesla makes enough cars to have a demand problem no halfway competent EV will have a demand problem.
Impressive stats and a very nice interior. Let’s see when they start production as well as who ponies up to spend $170K+ for these Lucid cars. At this price, they are very niche right now.
mltv
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Haha the Tesla crowd certainly more energetic 
. Post here get 2 response. Post in the Tesla investment thread 33.
. Post here get 2 response. Post in the Tesla investment thread 33.
RobStark
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mltv
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Probably comparing against the older Tesla S motor. The new Tesla S/X motor are much lighter as described in the unveiling to be able to carry - can't carry a 295lb motor
RobStark
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And yet Lucid Air Range gets 4.57 miles per kWh ( or thereabouts subject to final EPA numbers) while Model S LR gets 4.05 miles per kWh. With a bigger heavier pack, all else being equal, the Air should be less efficient. You get ~112 more miles of range in the Range versions and ~79 miles more range in the Performance versions.
I also would like to see a headlight comparo driving at night.
But at the end of the day I don't think buyers of Model S and Air will be torn down the middle and looking at stat details to make a choice.
You buy into the Tesla way with yoke, no physical gear/direction shifter, no regen adjustment etc or you don't.
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linux-works
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tesla is past their peak (I'm just being honest, here). and the chinese are nothing to worry about, in terms of significant innovation.
the american startups, otoh, show a lot of promise. (ob disc: I know engineers in most of them). the quality is as good or better than most of what tesla has working for them (again, this assumes tesla has lost most of its original brainpower and they've migrated to the newer startups). and as I've said before, whoever starts early, pays the most in terms of tech debt that they have to undo, later on. late comers can avoid those mistakes.
afaict, lucid has solid architecture and that will translate to more affordable cars, later. I wish they would start with affordable cars, sigh. but they'll get there, eventually, and by the time they do, their code will be more production ready.
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How about comparing the Plaid to the Lucid Air P? 3.96 miles per kwh vs 3.98 essentially the same with skinnier tires.
So the Lucid Air R only has 2 motors? Interesting.
Doggydogworld
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Your memory is good, but all your small errors are in the same direction
Tesla told them to set the AC at 72 and keep the speed between 65-70. Author claims he drove faster, at least on parts of I-5. They went Fremont to SpaceX, 359 miles, in 6 hours 11 minutes. That's 58 mph average. 11% indicated SOC at the end for 403 miles implied range at that speed.
RobStark
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Air's 924 volt system will be able to charge at speeds in excess of 300 kW.
It will be also be compatible with a bi-directional home charging station to enable car-to-grid functionality, and a 19.2-kw onboard charger can regain up to 80 miles per hour on 240V AC—at 80 amps, on a 100-amp circuit, with a special Connected Home Charging system to be installed by Qmerit.
It will be also be compatible with a bi-directional home charging station to enable car-to-grid functionality, and a 19.2-kw onboard charger can regain up to 80 miles per hour on 240V AC—at 80 amps, on a 100-amp circuit, with a special Connected Home Charging system to be installed by Qmerit.
BrownOuttaSpec
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I still think the charging infrastructure is the real hidden gem. We all know that Tesla SuperChargers are considered A+
Who wants to charge their $170k Lucid next to a Chevy Bolt in the Walmart parking lot waiting for a cart to roll by and ding your car? (assuming the charger even works)
Who wants to charge their $170k Lucid next to a Chevy Bolt in the Walmart parking lot waiting for a cart to roll by and ding your car? (assuming the charger even works)
RobStark
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Tesla is opening up the Supercharger Network to all CCS vehicles next year. Just download the app and upload a CC number. Elon says they will have an elegant solution for adapters.
Who wants to charge a $130k-$150k Model S Plaid next to a $40k Model 3 SR+ in the middle of some mall somewhere?
Bigger chance someone vandalizes a Tesla at a Supercharger than a shopping cart hits an EV at EA America charger. Because the chargers are almost always at the back farthest away from entrance to Walmart/Target.
I haven’t heard how many stations will be opened up or have adapters. Like, only newly built ones? Only ones partly funded by subsidies? Every station? If pre-existing stations will be opened, how long will it take to get adapters (and labeling or signage for how non-Teslas should operate them) to all of them? I’m not yet sure the entire network will be opened up within the next year.
Tesla/Elon has never said such a thing. I think they said they would start in Europe next year and eventually expand it to all countries. They never said anything about when it would expand.
BrownOuttaSpec
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I would, Tesla Sentry mode FTW. Actually I would like it if there were more M3 SR around to get more angles/footage of the potential vandalize situation you mention.
Do Lucid vehicles even have this security video recording capability?
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