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#641
RobStark said:
Peter said they did not deliver dozens perhaps hundreds of Dream Editions for lack of unique carpet and wheels.

Could they not contact customers and ask them if they are willing to accept black carpet and another wheel choice? At least the wheels for temporary until the Dream 21" are back in plentiful stock? …

I get they don't want to half ass cars to get them out the door and fix later but this is taking perfectionism to the opposite extreme.
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Right. Peter seems to be a competent engineer. This year will show whether he is a competent CEO.
 
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#643
Lucid is selling Air Dreams again. Just not calling them Dream Editions.

Grand Touring Performance gets the same 118 kWh pack as the Dream Edition but is rated at 1050hp instead of 1111hp. No gold paint available and different 21" wheels.

$179k per GTP.

insideevs.com

Lucid Introduces New Performance Version Of The Air Grand Touring

We examine the announcement that Lucid Motors is adding a new variant to its Air lineup, the Lucid Air Grand Touring edition, which has 1,050 horsepower.
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Looks like the Saudi double down on factory in Saudi by the their orders. There's nothing free. I would guess that there string attach on these orders to be fulfill mostly in their Saudi factory
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Lucid Announces Deal for Purchase of Up to 100,000 Electric Vehicles

Lucid Group, Inc. (NASDAQ: LCID), setting new standards with the longest-range, fastest-charging electric car on the market, today announced an agreement with the Government of Saudi Arabia, under which the Government will purchase up to 100,000 vehicles over a ten-year period, with an initial...
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#646
Knightshade said:
So the government that owns most of the company is also planning to buy most of their production for the foreseeable future?
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No,

"The order quantity is expected to range from 1,000 to 2,000 vehicles annually and increase to between 4,000 and 7,000 vehicles annually starting in 2025, with the delivery of the vehicles required to commence no later than the second quarter of 2023."

The deal is for 50k vehicles over the next 10 years with an option for an additional 50k Lucid vehicles over the same 10 years.

Lucid expects to deliver 12k-14k vehicles this year.

Fully ramped it expects to deliver 35k Airs per year and 65k Gravitys per year.

Then they plan to launch a compact crossover SUV.

The Arizona factory is designed for 400k units per year with land to expand beyond that.

The factory in Saudi Arabia is said to be similar in size to the Arizona factory.
 
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#647
Lucid also 'expected' to deliver 4x as many cars last year as they actually did... and have already slashed their original 2022 target by 30-40%.

Lots of companies seem to "expect" EV production that they somehow never manage.

I believe ER is in a week, guess we'll get some idea how the ramp to the lowered goals is going and if they lower them any further.
 
#648
Knightshade said:
Lucid also 'expected' to deliver 4x as many cars last year as they actually did... and have already slashed their original 2022 target by 30-40%.

Lots of companies seem to "expect" EV production that they somehow never manage.

I believe ER is in a week, guess we'll get some idea how the ramp to the lowered goals is going and if they lower them any further.
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And Tesla expected to produce Cybertruck and Tesla Semi years ago.

Covid and the Russo-Ukrainian war has effected the auto industry in ways almost no one expected.

~1,500 cars delivered this year to the Saudi government will in no way be a majority of cars delivered.

Lucid has the demand and production capacity to deliver 20k Airs this year.

It is lack of parts that is the problem. Lucid has even scent engineering teams to help out suppliers.

#WeAreallintheSameBoat

You just keep cheering against pure BEV company. Keep being a proud member of #LCIDQ
 
#650
RobStark said:
Chicago auto detailer/PPF installer and Model 3 owner inspects a customer's Lucid Air GT.

Not great not horrible. For a car somewhere between 500-1000 produced by a new manufacture.

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Overall that seems really bad for what they claim they are trying to do. But we really don't know enough.
  • Why was the driver's side repainted?
  • When/where was it repainted? (At the factory, delivery center, third party body shop?)
  • Did it leave the factory with the window trim not properly attached, or is that a result of the repainting?
  • Was the paint on the front fascia that way from the factory, or done while repainting?
  • Where was the poor dust nib repair on the hood done? Factory or delivery center?
So it could have left the factory perfect, was damaged during transport, but then was repaired shoddily. Or it left the factory like that, which is really not a good look.
 
#651
MP3Mike said:
Overall that seems really bad for what they claim they are trying to do. But we really don't know enough.
  • Why was the driver's side repainted?
  • When/where was it repainted? (At the factory, delivery center, third party body shop?)
  • Did it leave the factory with the window trim not properly attached, or is that a result of the repainting?
  • Was the paint on the front fascia that way from the factory, or done while repainting?
  • Where was the poor dust nib repair on the hood done? Factory or delivery center?
So it could have left the factory perfect, was damaged during transport, but then was And repaired shoddily. Or it left the factory like that, which is really not a good look.
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I disagree.

This is car 500-1000 produced. I don't expect it to be LS 500 good. Nor even Model S good.

Yes, it is impossible to know what the car's condition was when it left the factory gate, when it left factory property, what happened during transpiration from Lucid factory to Lucid store, when it left the possession of Lucid, and what happened to it in the possession of the customer.
 
#654
MP3Mike said:
Overall that seems really bad for what they claim they are trying to do. But we really don't know enough.
  • Why was the driver's side repainted?
  • When/where was it repainted? (At the factory, delivery center, third party body shop?)
  • Did it leave the factory with the window trim not properly attached, or is that a result of the repainting?
  • Was the paint on the front fascia that way from the factory, or done while repainting?
  • Where was the poor dust nib repair on the hood done? Factory or delivery center?
So it could have left the factory perfect, was damaged during transport, but then was repaired shoddily. Or it left the factory like that, which is really not a good look.
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He may have been wrong about was the paint thickness on the roof being a repaint. My old Chevy Suburban has a factory two tone paint job. And the second color was painted on top of the first color. So it is plausible that Lucid did the same - by painting the roof portion red along with the rest of the body, and then painting the white on the roof as a separate step. So the paint would then properly be thicker than might normally be the case.

The fender and door repaint issue would remain in any case.
 
#655
wws said:
He may have been wrong about was the paint thickness on the roof being a repaint. My old Chevy Suburban has a factory two tone paint job. And the second color was painted on top of the first color. So it is plausible that Lucid did the same - by painting the roof portion red along with the rest of the body, and then painting the white on the roof as a separate step. So the paint would then properly be thicker than might normally be the case.

The fender and door repaint issue would remain in any case.
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While likely possible, the hair being in the paint on the roof is normally an indication that it wasn't done in the factory. (Though that can happen even in a factory, it is just less likely than during a repaint.)
 
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