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Also explain heating the garage with car AC!
reason for question: if it is 20 deg out and you stop at a remote charging station, can you sit in a warm car for the 1/2 hour while it charges?
Absolutely. In fact, I've done it for an hour and a half at -20C with howling winds. Had to touch the screen periodically to keep the heat on, but we stayed nice and toasty while we charged.
Yes. It's especially convenient at a supercharger. Warm the human while you recharge the car.reason for question: if it is 20 deg out and you stop at a remote charging station, can you sit in a warm car for the 1/2 hour while it charges?
My impression (from a few data points a few weekends ago) is that at a supercharger there isn't really a penalty. More specifically, if you are supercharging with the climate control on and then tap the Climate button the reported charging power will temporarily spike by ~2 kW. That suggested to me that it's using more than (in my case) 90 kW from the wall while charging at the SC with climate control going strong.But it does take longer with the heat on. The last time, I wrapped myself in a blanket and had a snooze while it charged because I noticed it was going to take a fair bit longer at the CS-90 station I was plugged in to with the car "on".
I had not considered this, but here's another advantage:
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Of course, it's also an advantage to not be stupid.
My impression (from a few data points a few weekends ago) is that at a supercharger there isn't really a penalty.
I agree that there likely wouldn't be an issue there with all that power available. I noticed the penalty sitting at a 90 amp 240 volt station, and can only imagine it would be much worse at, say, a 30 amp ChargePoint.
I've seen my range decrease sometimes while prewaming the car before leaving in the morning ...
Still I could imagine sitting in the car trying to warm it up and accumulate range while plugged in to a 30A EVSE and seeing the estimated time remaining climb could cause you to panic a bit as it is long enough at that power to begin with.
Me too, but in my case it's because I only draw 16 amps at 240 volts at home (3.8 kW) and the pack/cabin heater draw more than that at startup, so the difference has to come from the battery.
I discovered this sitting at a charger one time when I turned the HVAC off and started to watch the time remaining drop substantially. When I turned the HVAC back on, the time to complete again started to get longer and longer until it settled back in at the original (longer) time. At this point, I wrapped myself in a blanket and turned the heat off :smile:
Did you try using the seat heaters to keep you warm instead? Wondering how much they would affect the charging time if they are activated while you wait ...
Did you try using the seat heaters to keep you warm instead? Wondering how much they would affect the charging time if they are activated while you wait ...
Does anyone stay on OP thread topic anymore?