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But there is an impact to customers. The rebate is supposed to be an incentive to encourage consumers to buy EVs. No incentive if Tesla just raises the price and effectively “keeps” the rebate for themselves. And just to add insult to injury, the consumer ends up paying more taxes and registration fees. But hey, if the demand is there, then might as well keep raising the price!this is a huge win for tesla bottom line with no impact to consumer.
Price hikes this year are ~20% right? Think inflation is ~6.9% in general right?Inflation
Tesla: If they can afford a $50k car, they can afford a $60k car. Do it.But there is an impact to customers. The rebate is supposed to be an incentive to encourage consumers to buy EVs. No incentive if Tesla just raises the price and effectively “keeps” the rebate for themselves. And just to add insult to injury, the consumer ends up paying more taxes and registration fees. But hey, if the demand is there, then might as well keep raising the price!
And auto prices make up roughly 20% of the inflation CPI increase.Price hikes this year are ~20% right? Think inflation is ~6.9% in general right?
One of the reasons not major factor. What I meant to say.Price hikes this year are ~20% right? Think inflation is ~6.9% in general right?
Well, even if today's market lets car makers take the whole incentive as extra profit, that itself should be their incentive for making and selling more EVs. So I think it's still useful, even if it won't make EVs much cheaper in the short-term.But there is an impact to customers. The rebate is supposed to be an incentive to encourage consumers to buy EVs. No incentive if Tesla just raises the price and effectively “keeps” the rebate for themselves. And just to add insult to injury, the consumer ends up paying more taxes and registration fees. But hey, if the demand is there, then might as well keep raising the price!
I think it's a combination of all the above, with basic economics (supply/demand) both on inputs and outputs playing the biggest cause. Tax credit - which isn't even for sure is a possible small cause too.I don’t think they are raising price bc of maybe (big maybe) tax credits will return. It’s just combination of supply problems, high demand and inflation.
No it will go up to the amount where supply meets demand. So long as there’s a 6+ month wait, these cars are underpriced. Biden’s tax credits will flow into Tesla’s pockets and demand will stay right where it is. When demand subsides, so will the prices.Why? You think prices will just go up forever?
The S and X are not luxury, Tesla does not make a true "luxury" vehicle. Luxury is typically defined by the quality of the fit, finish and customer service provided. The quality of my 2018 $45,000 Audi is way above the quality of my $84K Model S. Sure Tesla has more power and technology, but the fit and finish is no where near Audi, Mercedes, BMW or any of the legacy luxury brands.Yea you’re not paying for luxury here in the 3/Y which are essentially entry level teslas. Your paying that much. Because You want a Tesla. No different at this point as buying a loaded apple device. You want luxury you need to look at a S and X. Even the lucid, rivian, Mercedes’ offerings are considered luxury and are 77k-100k+
I mean, BEST case scenario would have been to place an order at the 48,9 price and then somehow delay it all the way to Jan for the tax credits haha. I locked mine in at 52,9 and I felt like I had missed out by not locking in a lower price...hindsight is 20/20, eh? I'm now very thankful I put it in when I did!So best case scenario currently is to have dropped an order around late Sept or early Oct, before these price increases, and then hope you don't take delivery until after the New Year so you qualify for the tax credit - if it sticks. Or put the order on hold if Dec delivery becomes a reality.
I think other “cheaper” vehicles also have their fit, finish and level of CS the same or even better.The S and X are not luxury, Tesla does not make a true "luxury" vehicle. Luxury is typically defined by the quality of the fit, finish and customer service provided. The quality of my 2018 $45,000 Audi is way above the quality of my $84K Model S. Sure Tesla has more power and technology, but the fit and finish is no where near Audi, Mercedes, BMW or any of the legacy luxury brands.
The finishes on the refreshed S are definitely a step in the right direction, but if you compared it to a $94K car from a German luxury automaker it's still sub-par at best for the price.
Speed and power doesn't classify a car as luxury.
Not really, cause with Tesla you're paying the premium and still not getting luxury. Luxury I think is not just the car itself, but the overall experience the brand brings.I think other “cheaper” vehicles also have their fit, finish and level of CS the same or even better.
Can I just say, “luxury” is all about paying for the premium.