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Just curious if you wish you had gotten it before taking delivery, esp now that track mode is only for P3D+
Great writeup. I think it boils down to mostly aesthetic choices for anyone who doesn't actually track their car regularly. I'm at peace with my decision now. Thanks!Presently, I'm less concerned than I was before but the final verdict is a wait and see. The main reason I want track mode is for the higher regen capability I'd use during a daily drive rather than actual track driving. Based on footage from the Road Show review of the P3D+, track mode is a simple on/off button. Whether there are sub-menus that allows deeper configuration remains to be seen.
If its the former rather than the latter, it means the track mode is ONLY useful for on the track. While tracking looks fun, I'm not sure I'm ready to put all the money plus wear and tear on a track hobby.
So what does the PUP offer?
Pros ($ are my estimated values):
So you're looking at $4650 worth of value +/- whatever you think some the components are valued at. Some of these items are cons however mostly around the tires.
- Track Mode
- 10mm Lowered Suspension | $$$ Unknown
- [bling+] 20" Sport Wheels + Pilot 4S Tires | $2000 | Improved performance i.e 0-60 in 3.4 vs. 3.5 and cornering
- [bling+] Brembo Brakes + Lighter Rotors | $1500 | Red Color looks cool / actual value is only realized on the track
- [bling] Carbon Fiber Spoiler | $1000
- [bling]Aluminum Pedals | $150
Cons:
- $5000 Extra
- Pilot 4S Tires are much grippier and don't have Aero covers resulting in ~15% less range than 18" Aero wheels
- 20" Rims are much more susceptible to potholes and damage
- 20" Tires have a harsher ride than the 18" Aeros
- Brake Rotor unique aspects that prevents easy installation of aftermarket tires
- Brakes calipers can't fit most 18" tires
I'm buying it because I want the extra performance, but it's also my daily driver and I don'y plan to race it on the track. Price is an issue for something I don't need. Went for EAP instead.I am really confused by who wants to buy the car without this package honestly..
If money is an issue then why not just buy the AWD or RWD and save a ton.. if you don’t care about performance then why buy the performance car to begin with.
It sounds to me those base 18 inch tires are really weak... I would be curious to see if you can buy a C class AMG or BMW M3 with tires like that (indeed I wouldn’t be surprised if a 320i came with better tires)?
And If you are planning to go aftermarket.. is it really worth it? Tesla is selling you this package pretty much at cost..
I am really confused by who wants to buy the car without this package honestly..
If money is an issue then why not just buy the AWD or RWD and save a ton.. if you don’t care about performance then why buy the performance car to begin with.
It sounds to me those base 18 inch tires are really weak... I would be curious to see if you can buy a C class AMG or BMW M3 with tires like that (indeed I wouldn’t be surprised if a 320i came with better tires)?
And If you are planning to go aftermarket.. is it really worth it? Tesla is selling you this package pretty much at cost..
+1I got the P3D- because I absolutely hate the look of their rims on the 20". I'd much rather buy my own after market brakes and rims/tires than get what they offer for $5k.
Don't be so confused. Some people who did not spring for the + in the P+ are people that actually care more about performance than Tesla seems to. The P+ upgrades are more of a vanity upgrade with little regard towards actual performance. Heavy 20" wheels with heavy mediocre brake rotors, vanity pedals, and vanity carbon fiber tail is not what I would consider performance.I am really confused by who wants to buy the car without this package honestly..
If money is an issue then why not just buy the AWD or RWD and save a ton.. if you don’t care about performance then why buy the performance car to begin with.
It sounds to me those base 18 inch tires are really weak... I would be curious to see if you can buy a C class AMG or BMW M3 with tires like that (indeed I wouldn’t be surprised if a 320i came with better tires)?
And If you are planning to go aftermarket.. is it really worth it? Tesla is selling you this package pretty much at cost..
I am really confused by who wants to buy the car without this package honestly..
If money is an issue then why not just buy the AWD or RWD and save a ton.. if you don’t care about performance then why buy the performance car to begin with.
It sounds to me those base 18 inch tires are really weak... I would be curious to see if you can buy a C class AMG or BMW M3 with tires like that (indeed I wouldn’t be surprised if a 320i came with better tires)?
And If you are planning to go aftermarket.. is it really worth it? Tesla is selling you this package pretty much at cost..
Don't be so confused. Some people who did not spring for the + in the P+ are people that actually care more about performance than Tesla seems to. The P+ upgrades are more of a vanity upgrade with little regard towards actual performance. Heavy 20" wheels with heavy mediocre brake rotors, vanity pedals, and vanity carbon fiber tail is not what I would consider performance.
Some of us chose the P- because we can get way better stuff after market. How about some sub 20lbs forged wheels with fat 265 width tires, super light and large brake rotors, and coil-over suspension. That's what the P+ should have come with in order to exploit those performance motors. Short of that no thanks, I'll get the P- and get my own stuff.
$1,500 for rotors and 2 piece calipers... I would love to know where this number came from. Seems dirt cheap IMO.Presently, I'm less concerned than I was before but the final verdict is a wait and see. The main reason I want track mode is for the higher regen capability I'd use during a daily drive rather than actual track driving. Based on footage from the Road Show review of the P3D+, track mode is a simple on/off button. Whether there are sub-menus that allows deeper configuration remains to be seen.
If its the former rather than the latter, it means the track mode is ONLY useful for on the track. While tracking looks fun, I'm not sure I'm ready to put all the money plus wear and tear on a track hobby.
So what does the PUP offer?
Pros ($ are my estimated values):
So you're looking at $4650 worth of value +/- whatever you think some the components are valued at. Some of these items are cons however mostly around the tires.
- Track Mode
- 10mm Lowered Suspension | $$$ Unknown
- [bling+] 20" Sport Wheels + Pilot 4S Tires | $2000 | Improved performance i.e 0-60 in 3.4 vs. 3.5 and cornering
- [bling+] Brembo Brakes + Lighter Rotors | $1500 | Red Color looks cool / actual value is only realized on the track
- [bling] Carbon Fiber Spoiler | $1000
- [bling]Aluminum Pedals | $150
Cons:
- $5000 Extra
- Pilot 4S Tires are much grippier and don't have Aero covers resulting in ~15% less range than 18" Aero wheels
- 20" Rims are much more susceptible to potholes and damage
- 20" Tires have a harsher ride than the 18" Aeros
- Brake Rotor unique aspects that prevents easy installation of aftermarket tires
- Brakes calipers can't fit most 18" tires
$1,500 for rotors and 2 piece calipers... I would love to know where this number came from. Seems dirt cheap IMO.
Unless you live in CA, FL, or another sunshine state, the P3D+ package won’t suffice. Summer is nearly over and the P3D+ tires are only usable above 40 degrees. Below 40 degrees, those tires are a safety hazard, and you must buy another set of wheels/tires to safely operate the vehicle.
Don't be so confused. Some people who did not spring for the + in the P+ are people that actually care more about performance than Tesla seems to. The P+ upgrades are more of a vanity upgrade with little regard towards actual performance. Heavy 20" wheels with heavy mediocre brake rotors, vanity pedals, and vanity carbon fiber tail is not what I would consider performance.
Some of us chose the P- because we can get way better stuff after market. How about some sub 20lbs forged wheels with fat 265 width tires, super light and large brake rotors, and coil-over suspension. That's what the P+ should have come with in order to exploit those performance motors. Short of that no thanks, I'll get the P- and get my own stuff.