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Autonomous Nissan Leaf Video

Discussion in 'Autonomous Vehicles' started by schonelucht, Mar 30, 2017.

  1. schonelucht

    schonelucht Active Member

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    Probably the most impressive video of autonomous driving so far comes courtesy of Nissan. Not just what the car is able to do like navigate roundabouts and local roads but also they were not afraid enough to show it off with an independent reporter riding shotgun and recording it all together with his live commentary.



    Really sets the benchmark for FSD I think.
     
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    Impressive
     
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    Mind boggling! Mass release seems eminent... if they would have the Tesla guts.
     
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    This thread and the comments at electrek and on tesla subreddit shows how uninformed tesla fans are.
    This is no benchmark. this is child's play compared to what GM cruise is showing off. There's not even any comparison.
    Its a toy in comparison.



     
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    The Leaf is running a replanned route.
     
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    Very very impressive. .!!!
     
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    That would be disappointing indeed. How do we know this?

    True, Cruise has shown some impressive stuff as well. What I particularly liked about the Nissan video is that they took an independent reporter along for the ride and had it film in real time. His comments about the naturalness of the whole affair added a lot of worth as well (i.e., no jerkiness, no weird decisions, feels like a human, etc...) Maybe it's time GM should commit itself to such a video as well.
     
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    I don't want videos. I want cars that I can buy.
     
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    That's what better camera positions, more processing power, and more sensors will give you.

    Tesla decided to take the very cheap route on Model S & X, but some of the reasons are clear in the video above: they say how much compute power is in that Leaf, and in that development vehicle, it uses 1.5kW just to run all of them. That's like driving a Model X uphill on a cold dark rainy head-wind night with a sizable trailer driving fast and accelerating all at the same time.

    Most of those things can be shrunk and embedded with time. Already, Nvidia is coming out with lower energy higher compute capacity more compact processors that can be installed on that Leaf, and also upgraded on current Teslas if necessary. The one immense concern I have with Tesla's approach, however, is that Tesla failed to put in cameras on the left and right of the forward view, and only uses the bitch seat view of the middle, which can hardly see anything. The left and right views can see around many obstacles (as well as have very easy stereo response, causing 3D depth), just like a driver can, but the bitch seat view will automatically be less informed about traffic up ahead, such as quarter mile ahead, 4 blocks ahead, etc., that every driver is able to see. How can a computer drive better than a human if the computer doesn't even have the same depth of information the human has? The Leaf has done this right.
     
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    That was awful. It drove like an old foreigner going blind in a Toyota. They didn't know how to go around obstacles or make a right turn. Exactly what I'd expect from GM.
     
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    The Nissan employee drives to a starting point and then starts a trip to a preprogrammed endpoint. When these companies are willing to let the reporter choose the destination we will know that they are getting close to releasing their system.

    Some interesting tidbits in the video, including that Nissan is using rectangular objects seen by the sensors to map the cars position.
     
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    GM is sort of odd that way. They are sort of the Teddy Roosevelt of the auto industry. Unless you follow them closely, wrench on them, or reverse engineer their products, you don't hear too much.

    Like did you know some 2017.5 GM cars talk to each other on the road?

    "Cadillac said that mid-2017 CTS models in the U.S. and Canada will come standard with V2V capability. The mid-size sedan is built at GM’s Lansing Grand River Assembly Plant. Starting manufacturer’s suggested retail price on a CTS is about $46,000.

    “V2V essentially enables the car to sense around corners,” Richard Brekus, Cadillac global director of product strategy, said in a statement. “Connecting vehicles through V2V holds tremendous potential, as this technology enables the car to acquire and analyze information outside the bounds of the driver’s field of vision. As an early mover, we look forward to seeing its benefit multiply as more V2V-equipped vehicles hit the road.”

    While MB is also releasing V2V this year, it needs both GPS and cellular to operate, whereas the GM system will keep working if it loses a signal.
     
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    either this is a joke or you're delusional...
     
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    I saw a Delco video like this with a GM car a couple of years ago. Couldn't find the video later. Now they have a video with an Audi.
     

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