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I don’t know. I think everyone is overthinking it. I think the most recently produced model X’s and S’s (3rd quarter vehicles) have the new batteries in them. Just my opinion.Only Elon knows. If you are wanting to buy, like myself, I would wait. Only 25 more days!
Price will go up. They will sell remaining vehicles in inventory with no discount to suckers.
Price will go up because it can. It’s new tech coupled with a potential refresh of the S/X.Why would prices go up? Project Roadrunner (1Mmile) is supposed to be much cheaper to produce. And thus, why wait to implement on the exact date of battery Day?
Prices will change to reflect any advancements related directly to consumer experience - range/features/performance etc. I very much suspect battery improvements dont qualify for that for two reasons: first, Teslas batteries are already expected to last for the lifetime of the car, assuming "normal" non-Tesloop usage. Second, Elon already cut out the part of the hype concerning a massive increase in kWh/kg stating a 60% increase is possible over the next 3-4 years. That is a huge disappointment.
And to elaborate on the second point, since the purported breakthrough is then not about range, it must be about performance. And since even V3 SC seem to be constrained by thermal throttling on the charger side, I suspect this is about discharging performance - an area Tesla has been shown to be underwhelming in since the Taycan came around.
Battery Day will thus likely mostly cater to performance enthusiasts. Plaid will most likely cost more, but not everyone is interested.
Price will go up because it can. It’s new tech coupled with a potential refresh of the S/X.
People will pay more regardless of what it costs Tesla to produce.
You don’t know Tesla’s mission then.Price will go up because it can. It’s new tech coupled with a potential refresh of the S/X.
People will pay more regardless of what it costs Tesla to produce.
I don’t think you do. Spoiler: it’s to make money for its shareholders.You don’t know Tesla’s mission then.
R&D. And yes, refreshes of ICE cars are often more expensive. Do you think a Honda Civic is more or less expensive today than it was in 1998 when factoring for inflation?Wrong. Tesla are losing market shares in most of EU and have generally lost the lead on specific points like charging speed and repeated launches. Even range is not best-in-class when Lucid Air comes out.
Teslas have consistently dropped prices over the last few years, as has every other EV manufacturer. E-tron dropped almost 10.000USD a few months back and Tesla can't afford to let the prices go up unless specifically on the niche extreme-performance. I suspect Plaid won't be standard.
"New tech" needs to serve a purpose to have people pay more. As I wrote before, the range doesn't seem to be markedly increased as per Elons post about density improving gradually over 3-4 years. What else would you think could justify a price rise in regards to battery tech if not range?
And why would a refresh be more expensive? Facelifts and revisions of existing ICE cars aren't.
R&D. And yes, refreshes of ICE cars are often more expensive. Do you think a Honda Civic is more or less expensive today than it was in 1998 when factoring for inflation?
R&D isn’t a valid reason for a price hike on a newly introduced product? Ooookay.I guess you don't get to 2k+ posts by writing with substance. "R&D" just doesn't remotely cut it for adressing my post. My points are valid, your point isn't even one.
And about the Civic, apart from "who cares about your cherry picked case", I'm quite sure the price still is within 10% over the course of those 22 years. Which is entirely negligible, and solely bolsters my argument: Refreshes don't appreciably change the price of a car.
R&D isn’t a valid reason for a price hike on a newly introduced product? Ooookay.
I chose the civic as an example because, and I’m not sure if you understand this being inside your Tesla bubble, it’s a fairly popular vehicle in terms of sales.
Feel free to provide your own example with Toyota, Porsche, BMW, whoever.
There are two ways to increase your margins. Lowering costs and increasing price. Elon’s entire philosophy falls right in line with the former.I don’t think you do. Spoiler: it’s to make money for its shareholders.
Why? They refreshed the seats and lowered the costs.I suspect that if any interior refreshes would be happening it would only raise the price by $2k-5k. That's pretty minor on a $80k vehicle.
Ya, that's definitely a possibility, too. Moving to an interior like the 3/Y should lower costs. Wouldn't be the first time Tesla has passed on the savings to the consumer.Why? They refreshed the seats and lowered the costs.