BMW i3 versus Model S

[Zythryn]

If, by electronics, he means auto braking, lane assist, and other collision prevention features, I would agree.
The Model S is 'growing up' and really needs to add those features.
Both, for competition reasons, as well as safety and IHSTA ratings.

 

[PokerBroker]

Lol at the thought that stopping to pay for gas every ONE HOUR (70mi) once you are past 160mi is better than 20min at a free supercharger every two hours or 40min every four hours

 

[David_Cary]

Except that of course gas stations number in the 100,000s and there are 100 superchargers.

My issue is the i3 is pretty small for a road trip.

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The comparison with the i3 is ludicrous and not worth the time of day. What we have here is a case of congenital brand addiction, which seems to afflict many BMW owners.

The real test for me what BMW owners who've driven the Model S think. My brother is a long-time BMW owner -- over the last 25 years he's probably owned 5 or 6, including an M5 or two. When he drove my Model S he acknowledged that it was a better car in almost every way. Over the time he's had BMWs his stories about his experiences with BMW dealers and service are legion, and not in a positive way. When I tell him about Tesla service and reliability he's amazed. He's just not ready for a BEV. I'm working on him, believe me.

The other day I pulled into a Starbucks, and as always, the car was getting a lot of attention and questions. One of the inquirers was an M5 owner, and I let him do a 10 minute test drive. When we returned to the Starbucks he said to his wife: "Time to sell the M5." That the apple I want to compare and it's enough for me

Except that if someone is looking for a BEV, the options are limited and so all are comparable in my opinion. Considering I got a Leaf after canceling a Tesla reservation....

If there were only 5 ICE cars, they would all be cross shopped, even if one was a Toyota Corolla and the other was a M5.

 

[Ugliest1]

Lol at the thought that stopping to pay for gas every ONE HOUR (70mi) once you are past 160mi is better than 20min at a free supercharger every two hours or 40min every four hours

I thought the Volt had about a 400-odd-mile range, on gas? (from memory, and a memory that doesn't really care :wink. So not every hour. But your point still holds!

re Volts in general, I test drove a 2013 Volt just prior to the 2014's coming out, and was very impressed. Would have gotten me mostly off ICE, still the range for trips, much less maintenance, etc. Since Tesla was my end game, I was seriously thinking to buy the Volt, then sell it when GenIII came out. And I probably would have played "no gas" games too, just not at the OCD level. But then I realized that the capital cost of a Volt and a GenIII would pretty much equal a Model S. So on to Plan B and don't look back!! (Soooooo happy!!!! :love.

The i3/MS comparison chart is ridiculous.

EDIT: Oops - got my threads mixed up - this also applies to the "Volt electric range anxiety" thread

 

[AC1K]

 

[AmpedRealtor]

This chart is hilarious and the result of pure delusion.

 

[tommolog]

Not i3 vs Model S, but how about i3 vs ActiveE? Michael Thwaite and I did a range comparison of the two cars over the weekend. The i3 came up with 96 miles and the ActiveE 102. Full details here: The Electric BMW i3: Real World Range Test: BMW i3 vs BMW ActiveE

 

[30seconds]

This chart is hilarious and the result of pure delusion.

Or supremely calculated marketing so they don't get compared to their true competitors - the leaf and the e500