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Booster seat and Tesla don’t go together

garth_angst

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I think everyone say that you are not supposed to use them. On the MX, we have to flip the buckle to get it in. On the 3, it's a lot of work.

Correct, do NOT use those extensions. They are unsafe in any car. It's made for large people who cannot get a seatbelt around them, not to be used to make a convenient use for child seats.
 
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Garlan Garner

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God Tesla must really hate kids. It’s very difficult to use a booster seat with any Tesla because most of the seats are a little too narrow for them. Even if you get to the buckle, you have to deal with the thing being stuck deep into the seat. Getting a booster buckle down is like a 5 min process, super annoying. This is the same with the Mx ms and now the 3.

So Tesla hates kids?
 

mattack4000

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So the safety they put in their cars are only for adults?

Lets see...….Elon musk has how many kids? 6 boys or something like that? and he hates kids?

His wife/partner is currently pregnant with another.....and he hates kids?

They chose looks over fit by making the buckle not moveable, you decide how much he loves his kids. It's not that safe if a kid can't buckle in.
 
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jkdman123

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They chose looks over fit by making the buckle not moveable, you decide how much he loves his kids. It's not that safe if a kid can't buckle in.
This is not a Tesla problem. It’s a car problem. Or more accurately, a booster seat problem. My Honda Odyssey was a stone cold bitch for car seats. Especially with the move by car seat companies to require you to *precisely* position the seat for max effectiveness. I had to use a towel AND a foam pad (especially designed to help level car seats) just to get the seat to fit right.

Stop acting like Tesla is completely out to lunch on this. They can’t make a one-size-fits-all seat to accommodate every car and booster seat on the market.
 

mal_tsla

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OK, to be fair, the reason the buckles are recessed like that is to get them closer to the seat bottom/back. This improves safety by changing the geometry of the seat belt system in a beneficial way. They're not putting the buckle there because it looks better (although that's probably a side benefit), they're doing it to improve safety. That's also why this change is spreading to more cars.

Where Tesla goes uniquely wrong is that their seat base width is especially narrow, too narrow to interoperate which the majority of belt-positioning booster seats. Their sites are mostly fine for baby/toddler seats, but they need to be wider to function better with the boosters that older kids use. To be clear, it's the width inside the buckle area that matters -- Tesla could leave the seat the way it is but move the buckle closer to the edge, or various other designs that would work better.

What happens currently is that when a child moves out of a car seat and into a booster, suddenly they can't buckle themselves in. This will lead to them using a booster for less time, as the parents are itching to have their child be able to get in the car like they have been doing already. They'll stop using the booster sooner, and the kid is less safe.

I suspect booster seats will respond to this by making models that are more narrow at the back, and indeed, we purchased the best model we could find that had the narrowest back. But, still today there are very few choices that will work well in a Tesla due to available width inside the buckle area on Tesla seats.
 

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mattack4000

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They could attach it to the low point while keeping it kids friendly by allow room to move the buckle or modify how the seatbelt goes in. I have seen seatbelts where they have a 20 degree angle to help do just that. In order to fit it in, you pretty much have to slide the booster seat to one side and then lock it. It gets hard when your kid is 70lbs, plus the smallish seat slides the booster back into the recess causing it to block the buckle again. As I said, this is not a unique Model 3 problem. It's on the X and S too. I just can't believe they still haven't fixed it.

OK, to be fair, the reason the buckles are recessed like that is to get them closer to the seat bottom/back. This improves safety by changing the geometry of the seat belt system in a beneficial way. They're not putting the buckle there because it looks better (although that's probably a side benefit), they're doing it to improve safety. That's also why this change is spreading to more cars.

Where Tesla goes uniquely wrong is that their seat base width is especially narrow, too narrow to interoperate which the majority of belt-positioning booster seats. Their sites are mostly fine for baby/toddler seats, but they need to be wider to function better with the boosters that older kids use. To be clear, it's the width inside the buckle area that matters -- Tesla could leave the seat the way it is but move the buckle closer to the edge, or various other designs that would work better.

What happens currently is that when a child moves out of a car seat and into a booster, suddenly they can't buckle themselves in. This will lead to them using a booster for less time, as the parents are itching to have their child be able to get in the car like they have been doing already. They'll stop using the booster sooner, and the kid is less safe.

I suspect booster seats will respond to this by making models that are more narrow at the back, and indeed, we purchased the best model we could find that had the narrowest back. But, still today there are very few choices that will work well in a Tesla due to available width inside the buckle area on Tesla seats.
 

mal_tsla

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This problem is not unique to Tesla but this forum is. So, we're discussing the problem from the point of view of Tesla owners here.

Maybe Tesla could just engineer a properly-made, safe, seat-belt-extender-for-booster-seats solution and sell it to us at a typical Tesla markup. We'd buy one. :(
 

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