That's not a picture of a Model 3.
Peculiar that they included one non Model 3 pic in their gallery of new Model 3 pictures.
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That's not a picture of a Model 3.
can you show us more internal pics?Door panels are black Alcantara on ours delivered today.
Wonder how much longer before we lose the Alcantara on the doors?Door panels are black Alcantara on ours delivered today.
I suspect it would get changed to match the seat upholstery material like on my UW interior X or my previous S. So it wouldn't be catastrophic.Wonder how much longer before we lose the Alcantara on the doors?
Sure. I'll take some more tomorrow when I get a chance. I had taken some but realized it had my home address on the nav screen. Anything in particular you'd like to see?can you show us more internal pics?
I would love to see the "new" version of this shot....Sure. I'll take some more tomorrow when I get a chance. I had taken some but realized it had my home address on the nav screen. Anything in particular you'd like to see?
Actually in supply chain management, it is quite common to purposefully not being overly exact in specifying product details in order to maintain supply flexibility.No, it has not. Because that would be a terrible idea. When you're mass-producing a car, you don't want a flexible supply of whatever materials happen to be available. You want a solid, rigid, guaranteed reliable supply of the exact materials specified for your product.
Actually it isn't bad. The suede-like material appears to be on all the heavy handling areas while the fabric is mainly areas that people don't normally touch. The black doors have the suede stuff and the headliner is a light grey material. In person it isn't jarring or anything.What a mess, yet so typically Tesla. Competition can't come soon enough, I'm afraid.
Shipping alcantara doors and/or visors with a cloth headliner is further evidence that Tesla takes its customers for fools. Tesla is simply getting rid of extra alcantara stock by mixing materials like this, not because it's beautiful or actually adds any value. Who wants cloth mixed with alcantara? Nice patchwork of an interior.
Haha. Okay.I would love to see the "new" version of this shot....
What a mess, yet so typically Tesla. Competition can't come soon enough, I'm afraid.
Shipping alcantara doors and/or visors with a cloth headliner is further evidence that Tesla takes its customers for fools. Tesla is simply getting rid of extra alcantara stock by mixing materials like this, not because it's beautiful or actually adds any value. Who wants cloth mixed with alcantara? Nice patchwork of an interior.
Actually in supply chain management, it is quite common to purposefully not being overly exact in specifying product details in order to maintain supply flexibility.
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I'm not sure what you point is. The debate is not which headliner is better, it's the fact that Tesla sold people alcantara and delivered something else.Does everyone realize that Alcantara is cloth!! It's just a trademark for an over-hyped synthetic cloth?
https://jalopnik.com/what-the-hell-is-alacantara-anyway-1604799947
https://thegarage.jalopnik.com/suede-is-a-garbage-material-for-car-interiors-1733409981
Hmmm,,, From where did you get this insight??
When I actually worked in manufacturing for a Fortune 500 company we provided multiple suppliers the same set of specifications to meet because we want the customer experience to be the same regardless of supplier product used. While the supplier had some choice on sub-components used, they could not diminish the standards that had to meet. When initial samples of the supplier product were delivered, they were tested against a defined COMMON set of criteria.
Otherwise, overall quality control would be very difficult to measure and maintain AND it would be difficult to give the customer a consistent experience.
I'm not sure what you point is. The debate is not which headliner is better, it's the fact that Tesla sold people alcantara and delivered something else.
Actually in supply chain management, it is quite common to purposefully not being overly exact in specifying product details in order to maintain supply flexibility.
Actually you're both right.Hmmm,,, From where did you get this insight??
When I actually worked in manufacturing for a Fortune 500 company we provided multiple suppliers the same set of specifications to meet because we want the customer experience to be the same regardless of supplier product used. While the supplier had some choice on sub-components used, they could not diminish the standards that had to meet. When initial samples of the supplier product were delivered, they were tested against a defined COMMON set of criteria.
Otherwise, overall quality control would be very difficult to measure and maintain AND it would be difficult to give the customer a consistent experience.
Kind of... I think aside from charging people for FSD and not delivering on the S and X for a while, this is the worst of the complaints. I've never been too persuaded by complaints about battery size, or the complaint about theoretical horsepower vs. horsepower delivered, or many of the prior complaints. The adaptive headlights kerfuffle was a big-ish deal, but Tesla fixed that at the service centers as far as I know.
I'd love to see a top 10 Tesla failures more salient than #alcantaragate, if you've got things in mind.
No one is going to complain or call something deception if a manufacturer over-delivers on battery size, or speed, or software updates, or any of that.
And, if people thought the woven "premium" material was a "like" material to the alcantara stuff they thought they were getting, no one would complain. If I'm having a home built and the specification calls for a Hansgrohe sink fixture, and they install a Matki instead, no one would lose their minds. But this is more like showing Hansgrohe in a model home and then installing this:
Maybe this thread has taught me that 'there's no accounting for taste,' but I suspect if it went in the opposite direction, and the early 3s had the woven material, and then the switch was made to Alcantara, instead of having @498,000 people mad at Tesla, the number would be somewhere less than @2,000 -- maybe far less, since some people seem to not have a taste to know the difference.
more parts are rejected at Incoming that now have to be dealt with thru an MRB process, etc
Every design engineer should work in the MRB at least once in their career. It would make them better design engineers. And on the line. Lots of knowledge to be had there. You would have been one of the people I wanted to see in design transfer meetings - you knew where the dirt was.Off topic, but it is funny to see MRB referenced on this forum. I was an MRB engineer at my company for about 18 years - it is a fun job if you can handle the fact that you literally never see a conforming part ever, LOL. Learned more about our airplane in my first 4 months doing MRB than I did in over a year on the design team. And I got to get my hands dirty and crawl down inlets and stuff vs sitting at a computer - good times.