I don't think that you actually read the "dissenting" posts. Yes, *IF* GM can convince CARB that their Spark EV sold in California and Oregon is NOT a compliance car (that's in the NRG/EVgo agreement), and there are TWO available Frankenplug charger manufacturers on the market, THEN there will be 200 Frankenplugs.... drum roll... in FOUR YEARS.
I have read those comments. None of the reports I have read about the NRG settlement say there is a compliance car verification requirement (link please to evidence?). From the pdf I posted about the 4 chargers, they are going to have the first NRG chargers installed within 6 months after UL certification of 2 manufacturers (there are 7 being certified in parallel right now). If you look at the NRG's evGo network there are 0 DC chargers in CA (they have 40 in Texas), this is because they were waiting for dual connector stations:
http://www.evgonetwork.com/find-a-station/
I find it highly unlikely that evGo will let Ecotality/Blink dominate the market for 4 years in CA.
One bad part of the California NRG/EVgo deal for the Frankenplug consortium... it doesn't kill CHAdeMO... actually, there will be 200 CHAdeMOs sitting right next to a Frankenplug in FOUR years.
No one is trying to kill CHAdeMO in the US (only GM has proposed this, but none of the other SAE members nor CARB has proposed this). The policy is dual connector stations going forward. Rather it's CHAdeMO trying to kill SAE DC.
Ingineer seems to think that CHAdeMO might get some official sanction in EU, but obviously, the Germans will lock up their country to protect their German manufacturers who have all signed on to the Frankenplug Euro 3 phase Spec.
CHAdeMO might get IEC approval, but I actually went back and looked at the press release and it actually says the EU will only support Type 2, not just IEC overall (so it excludes Type 1: J1772, Type 3 too). So even if CHAdeMO gets accepted by IEC, they still have to convince the EU to change their policy to accept CHAdeMO. Being accepted by IEC gives them a better chance, but still unlikely (given the EU excluded both Type 1 and 3).
I can't wait to plug in my BMW i3 purchased in Germany that I had shipped over here... oops, it won't plug in to the "international harmonization".
You can actually charge it using a soda can adapter like the Model S does. But what I mean is the fact the protocols and footprint of the two are the same. The L2 socket has to be different because of 3-phase support, regardless of what DC standard you use.
The single socket concept was silly from the get-go, unless they wanted to do it like Tesla. That makes sense.
Doing it like Tesla is impractical unless they plan for people to use adapters for L2 charging, which would be really annoying for the short range non-Tesla EVs.
Please expand on the difference between V2G and V2H. You write like Frankenplug "had it first" when you realize that there really isn't a Frankenplug yet. Yes, CHAdeMO updated their firmware (without telling anybody) for V2H.
The SAE DC spec was finalized last year, so yes it exists (you can buy a copy on SAE's site for $68). The main difference between V2G and V2H is that V2G has support for directly communicating with the utility. V2H provides bi-directional power, but can't communicate with the utility (which is why it's only for "Home"). CHAdeMO's "support" of V2H might not even be in the official spec, but proprietary protocol using the connector. The Leaf press release only mentions the connector is a JARI G105 (AKA CHAdeMO) but not that the protocol is. Toyota added similar V2H support to the PiP using the J1772 AC connector and a similar external "home unit".
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2012/05/leafvsh-20120530.html
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2012/06/tmcv2h-20120604.html
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I'm not sure what you mean by "EU exclusion of CHAdeMO".
CHAdeMO Association currently lists 720 CHAdeMO chargers in Europe.
I'm talking about this:
http://green.autoblog.com/2013/01/28/chademo-disappointed-european-commissions-fast-charging/
The rest seem like real good reasons to create another standard that's incompatible w/10s of thousands of cars and now over 2500 stations, not.
There are many more vehicles that do not support CHAdeMO (or any DC charging) than there are those that do. It's only 160 stations in the US. A large majority of CHAdeMO stations are in Japan, and no one is proposing to use Combo there.
From an automaker prospective those things (single socket, V2G) can be a pretty big deal, esp. when DC infrastructure is still barely started and V2G starting to play a bigger role (with the recent smart meter rollout). And before SAE's decision not to adopt CHAdeMO, it wasn't even an open standard and required royalties (it might still require royalties now; from the previous thread "open" does not mean royalty free). CHAdeMO only did an about face when it was clear the other automakers aren't going to adopt it.
