Climate Change / Global Warming Discussion

[S'toon]

LOL - she's just great at predicting future climate catastrophes:

Soon, environmental activists and reporters began to ask whether “drought”—a temporary weather pattern—was really the right term for what was happening in the state, or whether “desertification” was more appropriate. “We’re on our fourth year of drought,” Katharine Hayhoe, director of the climate science center at Texas Tech University in Lubbock, told the industry magazine Meatingplace. “In order to replenish depleted reservoirs and soil moisture, we don’t need just a normal year or just a single rainfall. We need an unusually wet year to get back to normal conditions.” But the early months of 2015 have seen less than 1.4 inches of total precipitation—not even a third of what is considered normal rainfall, much less enough to replenish surface water and groundwater resources.

In fact, hydrologists estimate that even with improved rainfall, it could take thousands of years to replenish the groundwater already drawn from the South Plains. If sustained rains don’t come soon, the tiny cattle towns of the Panhandle and across North Texas, already in decline for decades, may be pushed out of existence.

More On The Katharine Hayhoe Permanent Drought | The Deplorable Climate Science Blog

Meanwhile here in Texas are being ravaged by heavy rain an flooding, including the aforementioned South Plains a few weeks ago at the Texas Tech campus:

Flooding in Lubbock impacts driving, walking for students, locals

So yes, it would appear that her Climate Science degree confers great climate predictive powers, as I watch my trash cart float down my flooded Texas street.

Ah yes. Another "report" by a guy whose reputation is so bad, and is so unqualified in climate science, he doesn't even use his own name. I've posted about him before

Steven Goddard

 

[S'toon]

Deadly flooding is rocking Texas. Scientists say this is our future under climate change.

 

[S'toon]

The governments of 187 countries have agreed to control the movement of plastic waste between national borders, in an effort to curb the world's plastic crisis -- but the United States was not among them.

Nations agreed to add plastic to the Basel Convention, a treaty that regulates movement of hazardous materials from one country to another, in order to combat the dangerous effects of plastic pollution around the world.

The pact was approved at the end of a two-week meeting of UN-backed conventions in Geneva, Switzerland.

But the US was not involved in the decision-making process, as it is one of just two countries that have not ratified the agreement.

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Full article at:
187 countries -- not including the US -- agree to restrict global plastic waste trade - CNN

 

[mspohr]

Full article at:
187 countries -- not including the US -- agree to restrict global plastic waste trade - CNN

Even if the US declines to sign on, they still won't have any place to dump their waste.

 

[SageBrush]

Even if the US declines to sign on, they still won't have any place to dump their waste.

The open ocean ?

 

[jrad6515]

Deadly flooding is rocking Texas. Scientists say this is our future under climate change.

"But across the country, trends indicate that flooding is becoming the new normal."

Oh how I love this - just as drought in the same state is the "new normal" according to that great climate soothsayer, K. Hayhoe. Come to think of it, global cooling was the new normal back in the 70's according to the same bunch of socialist wackos. Now it's global warming. Anyone seeing a pattern here?

 

[mspohr]

The open ocean ?

Yes. Unfortunately, that's the current situation.

 

[SageBrush]

Yes. Unfortunately, that's the current situation.

Do you think it will be any different due to the international accord ?

The USA has turned into a rogue nation under trump

 

[SageBrush]

Oh how I love this

I am still waiting for you to justify your earlier post that the Earth is showing increased negative forcings components as it warms up.
Or have you backtracked from that assertion ?

Here are your choices according to IPCC, 2007 via wikipedia:

 

[mspohr]

Do you think it will be any different due to the international accord ?

The USA has turned into a rogue nation under trump

Yes, I agree.
The new agreement will prevent the US from shipping plastic to the rest of the world. Still no solution at home.

 

[SageBrush]

Yes, I agree.
The new agreement will prevent the US from shipping plastic to the rest of the world. Still no solution at home.

But will the accord prevent dumping in the open sea by the USA; or for that matter, by anybody ?
How about within territorial waters with circulation to the open seas ?
My read says no but I'd love to be wrong.

 

[mspohr]

But will the accord prevent dumping in the open sea by the USA; or for that matter, by anybody ?
How about within territorial waters with circulation to the open seas ?
My read says no but I'd love to be wrong.

Probably won't prevent dumping in the open ocean. I'd love to say that nobody would be so craven as to do that but the reality is that there are people who would do that if there's money to be made.

 

[mspohr]

El Niño Is Now Stronger and Stranger, Coral Records Show

The pattern of El Niño has changed dramatically in recent years, according to the first seasonal record distinguishing different types of El Niño events over the last 400 years.

A new category of El Niño has become far more prevalent in the last few decades than at any time in the past four centuries. Over the same period, traditional El Niño events have become more intense.

 

[JRP3]

Come to think of it, global cooling was the new normal back in the 70's according to the same bunch of socialist wackos.

No, it was never the new normal, it was a speculation by some scientists. Your pathetic argument seems to be that some scientists were wrong once about something so all science is wrong about everything.

 

[S'toon]

"But across the country, trends indicate that flooding is becoming the new normal."

Oh how I love this - just as drought in the same state is the "new normal" according to that great climate soothsayer, K. Hayhoe. Come to think of it, global cooling was the new normal back in the 70's according to the same bunch of socialist wackos. Now it's global warming. Anyone seeing a pattern here?

Wait a minute. I debunked that "global cooling" BS to you before.
What 1970s science said about global cooling

 

[S'toon]

Climate Change Deniers Are Not Putting Their Money Where Their Mouths Are

 

[Unpilot]

Wait a minute. I debunked that "global cooling" BS to you before.
What 1970s science said about global cooling

Here is a relevant paragraph:

The paper surveys climate studies from 1965 to 1979 (and in a refreshing change to other similar surveys, lists all the papers). They find very few papers (7 in total) predict global cooling. This isn't surprising. What surprises is that even in the 1970s, on the back of 3 decades of cooling, more papers (42 in total) predict global warming due to CO2 than cooling.

And another:

So in fact, the large majority of climate research in the 1970s predicted the Earth would warm as a consequence of CO2. Rather than climate science predicting cooling, the opposite is the case. Most interesting about Peterson's paper is not the debunking of an already well debunked skeptic argument but a succinct history of climate science over the 20th century, describing how scientists from different fields gradually pieced together their diverse findings into a more unified picture of how climate operates

 

[ohmman]

Here is a relevant paragraph:

The paper surveys climate studies from 1965 to 1979 (and in a refreshing change to other similar surveys, lists all the papers). They find very few papers (7 in total) predict global cooling. This isn't surprising. What surprises is that even in the 1970s, on the back of 3 decades of cooling, more papers (42 in total) predict global warming due to CO2 than cooling.

And another:

So in fact, the large majority of climate research in the 1970s predicted the Earth would warm as a consequence of CO2. Rather than climate science predicting cooling, the opposite is the case. Most interesting about Peterson's paper is not the debunking of an already well debunked skeptic argument but a succinct history of climate science over the 20th century, describing how scientists from different fields gradually pieced together their diverse findings into a more unified picture of how climate operates

And yet in a page or two of posts, the same person will repeat the same nonsense, be proven wrong, and come back to do it again.

 

[S'toon]

Facepalm worth climate denial idiocy from the election down under:
Australian Politician Accuses Weather Bureau Of Bizarre Conspiracy In Run-Up To Elections

This Climate Change-Denying Politician Just Made The Weirdest Argument We've Heard In A Long While

 

[mspohr]

Global Sea Ice At Record Lows For More than a Month

As a weak El Nino combines with continued rising atmospheric greenhouse gas levels to push global temperatures higher in 2019, we are seeing some pretty extreme warming impacts the world over. Just one of these impacts involves sea ice.