Commercial Crew Transportation Capability (CCtCap) SpaceX and Boeing Developments

[Grendal]

More Crew launch contracts coming:

NASA starts process to acquire more commercial crew missions

NASA is beginning the process to procure more commercial crew flights as it looks to extend the ISS through the end of the decade.

spacenews.com

Thee comments have a great discussion about Dreamchaser and its possibilities.

 

[Grendal]

Boeing takes $185 million charge because of Starliner delays

Boeing announced Oct. 27 it is taking an additional $185 million charge against its earnings to cover the costs to get its CST-100 Starliner flying again.

spacenews.com

 

[bxr140]

Barely related, the otherwise unused crew van made its way to Stanford this past weekend.

 

[bxr140]

While very much acknowledging the irony of idle Crew Van reports being more frequent than Starliner reports, I saw the van again. It still parked outside a random apartment complex on Sand Hill. I can't fathom what its doing there. Maybe a Superfan?

Let the speculation begin!

 

[Grendal]

While very much acknowledging the irony of idle Crew Van reports being more frequent than Starliner reports, I saw the van again. It still parked outside a random apartment complex on Sand Hill. I can't fathom what its doing there. Maybe a Superfan?

Let the speculation begin!

Maybe trying to attract some better programmers and engineers?

 

[bxr140]

Maybe trying to attract some better programmers and engineers?

Why start now?

ZING!

But really, its very randomly parked in the lot of some apartment complex filled with (I assume) mostly med students. I suppose at some point someone takes it over near the football stadium or wherever to attract some kind of attention during high traffic events...but its still kinda...werid.

 

[bmah]

Maybe trying to attract some better programmers and engineers?

Why start now?

ZING!

Better? Over by Stanfurd? Pleeeeease.

Bruce.
GO BEARS!

(...expecting mod privileges to get yanked in 3, 2, 1...)

 

[Grendal]

Well this is a huge deal - three more Crew launches for SpaceX. Success leads to more launches.

NASA to Secure Additional Commercial Crew Transportation – Commercial Crew Program

blogs.nasa.gov

NASA to award SpaceX three more commercial crew flights

NASA announced Dec. 3 its intent to purchase three more commercial crew missions from SpaceX as a hedge against further delays of Boeing’s Starliner.

spacenews.com

 

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[Grendal]

I haven't made a Crew 5 thread yet, so I'll put this here for now:

 

[Grendal]

Just the test flight.... So 2024 until astronauts launch....

Boeing Starliner test flight planned for spring 2022

NASA and Boeing are planning no earlier than May 2022 for the rescheduled second uncrewed test flight of the CST-100 Starliner spacecraft.

spacenews.com

 

[Grendal]

Crew 4 is coming in a few months. Here is an update from NASA and SpaceX on the plans for it.

NASA, SpaceX to Provide Update on Crew-4 Space Station Mission - NASA

NASA and SpaceX will hold a joint media teleconference at noon EST Friday, Feb. 4, to provide an update on progress toward the agency’s SpaceX Crew-4 mission

www.nasa.gov

It starts at 15:30.

 

[Grendal]

Another response to the war:

NASA Awards SpaceX Additional Crew Flights to Space Station

NASA Awards SpaceX Additional Crew Flights to Space Station.

www.nasa.gov

 

[adiggs]

Another response to the war:

NASA Awards SpaceX Additional Crew Flights to Space Station

NASA Awards SpaceX Additional Crew Flights to Space Station.

www.nasa.gov

I think it said the total value of the contract was up to 3.4B in there. Is that over the 9 flights themselves or does that also include any $$ for development of the capability? Is SpaceX getting ~$400M per crew mission? Somehow I thought it was a fair bit cheaper than that.

 

[SO16]

I think it said the total value of the contract was up to 3.4B in there. Is that over the 9 flights themselves or does that also include any $$ for development of the capability? Is SpaceX getting ~$400M per crew mission? Somehow I thought it was a fair bit cheaper than that.

Still cheaper than the 4.5 billion contract Boeing received for 6 flights yet to be delivered.

 

[mongo]

I think it said the total value of the contract was up to 3.4B in there. Is that over the 9 flights themselves or does that also include any $$ for development of the capability? Is SpaceX getting ~$400M per crew mission? Somehow I thought it was a fair bit cheaper than that.

Total program of 9 flights, so around 900 million additional.

 

[Grendal]

I think it said the total value of the contract was up to 3.4B in there. Is that over the 9 flights themselves or does that also include any $$ for development of the capability? Is SpaceX getting ~$400M per crew mission? Somehow I thought it was a fair bit cheaper than that.

Yes. It does include some development money. There is a chart here that breaks down some of the monies:

Development of the Commercial Crew Program - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This wiki details that each seat is $55 million on a Crew Dragon according to the NASA's OIG:

Commercial Crew Program - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Just to be clear, Russia was charging around $95 million per seat just before Crew Dragon launched.

 

[Grendal]

Boeing Starliner test flight next on ULA’s launch schedule – Spaceflight Now

spaceflightnow.com

 

[Grendal]

FREEDOM!

SpaceX's new Crew-4 Dragon capsule gets a name: Freedom

Freedom will be the fourth Dragon to carry astronauts.

www.space.com

 

[Grendal]

Crew 7! SpaceX gets things done.

NASA, ESA Assign Astronauts to Space Station Mission on Crew Dragon - NASA

NASA and ESA (European Space Agency) have selected two astronauts to launch on NASA’s SpaceX Crew-7 mission to the International Space Station.

www.nasa.gov