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Are these people so desperate for meaning in their lives that they behave like "church ladies" searching for transgressions in the thoughts and statements of others? Or maybe Musk has been possessed by Satan (the last word should be spoken slowly with a rising/questioning pitch).This anecdote is not unique. Most of my friends are environmentally conscience and relatively affluent but don’t suffer fools. Musk seems to most of them as as “unhinged”, “an egotist”, “intensely dislikable” and most cuttingly of all: “more Thanos than Captain Planet”. These are people that thought of him as a hero not so long ago.
I don’t know anyone that goes to church or believes in Satan? Most just think he’s started to behave like an arrogant child and are not minded to drop £40k on his product when the advertising tells them there are alternatives “coming soon”, when “soon” might be a time they’re less worried for their health and their jobs.Are these people so desperate for meaning in their lives that they behave like "church ladies" searching for transgressions in the thoughts and statements of others? Or maybe Musk has been possessed by Satan (the last word should be spoken slowly with a rising/questioning pitch).
We have a plan in place to keep social distancing in effect until the case count is small enough to track and contact trace every single positive. That'll take about another month in California, and it varies elsewhere. This is the lowest risk strategy. Unless there is overwhelming evidence that it is safe to short circuit the strategy, the strategy stays. Sorry, Elon.
After Hours price off the back of that joke of an earnings report gave me a chuckle I must say.
And you think the majority of those participating in the economy have these issues? Ok....
As with everything else, common sense must be used. People who are young and fit should be allowed to get back to work to help support the economy and in turn support those who cannot work. I don’t see how anyone can disagree with that.
Age is by far the single biggest risk factor. Half the deaths come from people over 80, and ~80% for people over 65 (ie people generally already retired).
Not entirely true. Older people are dying at a higher rate because they have a higher likelyhood of having one or more co-morbidities.
CDC sez:
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
"...older adults and people of any age who have serious underlying medical conditions might be at higher risk for severe illness from COVID-19."
"Conditions and Other Risk Factors
Asthma
Chronic lung disease
Diabetes
Serious heart conditions
Chronic kidney disease being treated with dialysis
Severe obesity
People aged 65 years and older
People in nursing homes or long-term care facilities
Immunocompromised
Liver disease"
How Many Adults Are at Risk of Serious Illness If Infected with Coronavirus? Updated Data
"Key Findings
- About four in ten adults (37.6%) ages 18 and older in the U.S. (92.6 million people) have a higher risk of developing serious illness if they become infected with coronavirus, due to their older age (65 and older) or health condition (Figure 1; Table 1).
- Just over half of those at higher risk of developing a serious illness are ages 65 and older (55.2% or 51.1 million adults); however, the remaining 41.4 million adults ages 18-64 are at risk due to an underlying medical condition.
- The share of adults ages 18 and older who have a higher risk of developing a more serious illness varies across the country, ranging from 49.3 percent (West Virginia) to 30 percent (Utah).
- In some of the states with the highest number of reported coronavirus cases thus far, the share of adults at high risk of serious illness if infected is relatively high: Louisiana and Florida (at 42.1 percent, each) and Michigan (41.2 percent).
- An estimated 5.1 million adults who are at higher risk of getting a serious illness if they become infected with coronavirus are uninsured."
The high percentage among the higher age groups distracts from the fact that the age group 45-64 still has almost the average risk.
In other words: The average numbers being discussed do apply to the 45-64 age group (almost).
I think it would be enormously difficult to separate even the above 80 group, but you might disagree.
For the above 45 age group, that's definitely impossible.
COVID-19: Data - NYC Health
Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19)
I don't know how anyone can look at this and say age isn't the largest risk factor
If you just take this table
The 45-54 group is almost 2.3x lower than the 54-64 group.
If you just take this table and convert the population fatality rate compared to the average overall rate, it looks like this:
0.0001 0-14yo
0.0076 15-24yo
0.0576 25-34yo
0.1613 35-44yo
0.4300 45-54yo
1.0000 AVERAGE
1.0143 55-64yo
2.3843 65-74yo
5.8953 75-84yo
14.2416 85yo+
Death rate increases by about 12% for every year older you are. I don't know how anyone can look at this and say age isn't the largest risk factor
He's had the Q1 numbers for a month, the source of his current angst is more recent. Assuming net 60 terms they're paying almost 500m/week of AP. Another 100m/week or so in salaries, rent, etc. They presumably offset part of that by collecting most of the 1.2b AR, though it's not clear to me why AR was that high in the first place since they didn't deliver that many cars in the final week or two.I'm not sure what Elon was freaking out about.
He's had the Q1 numbers for a month, the source of his current angst is more recent. Assuming net 60 terms they're paying almost 500m/week of AP. Another 100m/week or so in salaries, rent, etc. They presumably offset part of that by collecting most of the 1.2b AR, though it's not clear to me why AR was that high in the first place since they didn't deliver that many cars in the final week or two.
The bigger issue may be purchase commitments, though. The Panasonic deal is basically take-or-pay. Maybe they can force majeure out of it or something, otherwise they'll may need to re-negotiate from a position of weakness. They may have also made firm volume commits with other suppliers to get better pricing. Musk likes to push the envelope -- e.g. going naked on D&O. With a personal guarantee no less!
I personally think, opening Fremont with safety precautions like in GF3 is in order. I think it is lower risk now than in March.He's had the Q1 numbers for a month, the source of his current angst is more recent. Assuming net 60 terms they're paying almost 500m/week of AP. Another 100m/week or so in salaries, rent, etc. They presumably offset part of that by collecting most of the 1.2b AR, though it's not clear to me why AR was that high in the first place since they didn't deliver that many cars in the final week or two.
The bigger issue may be purchase commitments, though. The Panasonic deal is basically take-or-pay. Maybe they can force majeure out of it or something, otherwise they'll may need to re-negotiate from a position of weakness. They may have also made firm volume commits with other suppliers to get better pricing. Musk likes to push the envelope -- e.g. going naked on D&O. With a personal guarantee no less!
Still, it seems weird that an extra 3 weeks of not producing cars (which, I might add, has been 100% obvious since early March would be the minimum start date just using past curves) makes the difference between complete failure and a car company taking over the world.
I personally think, opening Fremont with safety precautions like in GF3 is in order. I think it is lower risk now than in March.
It's the end of April and new cases do seem to be slowing dramatically.
A month and a half ago this thread was flipping out that at a minimum 1M Americans were about to die and that doubled if we don't execute well. I would call that over-hyped.
I haven't been following Elon's tweets, but I haven't seen much of him latching onto the "freedoms"bandwagon. Yesterday he said Silicon...
This is where I stopped and checked Elon's Twitter feed.............Yikes. Not a good look the past 24hrs. Other than that, his general stance had been generally correct.
Disagree. Alameda County alone is producing about 130-260 new cases each day (26 of which they are catching). This is basically the same level they were at in late March! In all of Shanghai, a city of 25 million people, they maxed out at about 20 local community transmission cases per day! And the factory is way down south on the coast miles from the city center.
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They need to wait an additional couple weeks at least to get the cases down to the point where they can contact trace.
It's very high likelihood with the number of workers in the factory that there would be an outbreak there with cases at the current level. There's no way to screen people for the virus (short of RNA testing, which they should consider of course).
I think they should plan for a three-week delay, delaying to mid-May as expected, and in the meantime work on a plan to keep people at the factory in a safe way and in coordination with the governor.