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Makes you want to consider going off the grid. Buy some Tesla Power packs and be your own power supplier.SDGE really is a rip, I thought SCE was bad. Looks like I would go with their EV-TOU. House remains on tiered rate (so no changes in bill there), EV charges for $0.22 per kW (meter install payback time should be quick).
I'm not sure what the situation is with SDGE, but SCE is my provider, and is actually moving away from fossil fuel based sourcing (currently they are generating the same amount of power from renewables/hydro (26%) as they do from natural gas (27%), and thankfully only 8% from coal).Why be screwed by a Public Utility, which only wants to build more fossil fuel-based power plants.
Wow! That's really expensive ! I just changed my plan to "Time of use" and it's .13 but rate is only good from 10 pm -7 amIt will be about $.55 kWh for me at home, not sure what superchargers cost but it might be worth hitting them up. Current car gets 34mpg combine. How much more will it be to operate my Tesla than my ICE? Gas is currently about $3.20 a gallon.
My recent supercharger bill for model 3
Nephi, UT Supercharger
12/30/2017 4:03PM
$6.24
St. George, UT Supercharger
12/30/2017 11:57AM
$6.89
Primm, NV Supercharger
12/30/2017 7:19AM
$7.74
We actually have 3 tiers; Expensive, Very Expensive, and Bend Over.They could also do 120 tiers, which would be really fair, but in reality, it would in essence be that you pay per kWh. The more granular they break their fees up, the closer they are to charging you per kWh and running afoul with the state laws that prohibit that.
I think the logic behind only allowing the utility companies to charge by the kWh is consumer protection. The utility uses “utility grade” meters that read within a certain percentage of reality. It’s easy to make sure all meters that the utility uses are up to snuff. If an non-utility entity resells a portion of their power, how do you know how accurate those readings are that are driving what the 2nd person is paying for their power. Take for example, an OpenEVSE, which assumes the line voltage is exactly 120 or 240 volts. If I charged someone based of the kWh that the unit read, the person would’ve overpaying because the voltage sags slightly below 240 volts under heavy load.
The 2 tiers are easy to understand, work good enough at keeping you from overpaying during the taper, and keep Tesla well away from any state regulations that ban per-kWh charges, so I doubt they will ever add more tiers.
Funny as heck but the comments are about SC tiers not SDGE tiers...that aside IMO to get to tier 3-4 you are really using way too much electricity for any normal household. What the heck are y'all doing down there to use this much?We actually have 3 tiers; Expensive, Very Expensive, and Bend Over.
I want to go back to the original topic here - why does "No free supercharging" decide if this makes your 3 affordable or not. Tesla has been clear about it - even with S and X that SC'ing not meant to be your only source of charging. It is meant as much for or as much travelers, charging when not at home.Since Model 3 owners will not get free supercharging, are there some resources available for us to see if this is really going to economical?
First price increase inbound....I want to go back to the original topic here - why does "No free supercharging" decide if this makes your 3 affordable or not. Tesla has been clear about it - even with S and X that SC'ing not meant to be your only source of charging. It is meant as much for or as much travelers, charging when not at home.
If many buy thinking this is their only way of charging and use the SC's daily/weekly the prices of the charging at the chargers will go through the roof to discourage it.
That seems like a steep jump, but considering the original charges for paid SC'ing, they were just barely covering their electricity charges. Others have said on FB posts, etc, these new charges probably barely cover the electricity, upkeep, insurance, land lease, etc. I hope they find a happy medium, but considering the number of stations they have and the number of stations they will have to build, it won't be cheap and it comes at a cost.First price increase inbound....
Tesla increases cost of using its Supercharger stations, still says it ‘will never be a profit center’
Can you imagine in a year or two how many 3's will be clogging up the Super Chargers? You probably will have to make an appointment to charge! I think it's still CHEAP to charge there!!This is just my thinking, superchargers network is really meant as infrastructure to enable Tesla owners to be able to do road trips, so more people would get EV without range anxiety, it is not meant as your daily commute gas station. Why would you not like the convenience of charging at home? I have lifeiime free supercharging and 3 supercharger stations 6 to 8 miles from my home and have no plan to use any of them. EV is not meant to save gas money even though it is quite a bit cheaper than gas, it is about saving the environment.