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What were the symptoms of your A/C compressor vibration? I have a vibration in the floorboard that stops when I turn the A/C off.
My first visit to the SC was one month after delivery (because that was the soonest they could take me) and I had 12 repair items on the list. I've been back every 2-4 weeks since working on some of the original 12 and adding many new items. Mine was delivered new in September 2016.
The A/C Vibration carried itself through to the steering wheel. But, that was on an early VIN car. They have since changed the Compressor and mounting design. You may have a A/C coolant hose touching the body and it's vibrating when the compressor is activated or you may have a loose mounting bolt.
You will get a little vibration from the A/C, especially under full load, as its the only thing moving when you are at a stop. On an ICE car the engine vibration cancels it out (or hides it).
You will get a little vibration from the A/C, especially under full load, as its the only thing moving when you are at a stop. On an ICE car the engine vibration cancels it out (or hides it).
Tesla has very little interest in putting out a high quality product, that's obvious from all the issues reported in these forums and the fact that QC has not improved in the last 3-4 years.
Nothing will change at Tesla until owners such as yourself start refusing delivery of defective vehicles. That's when Tesla starts to feel it in the pocketbook and starts making QC a priority. As long as you reward Tesla for putting out a bad product, why should they change?
Nothing will change at Tesla until owners such as yourself start refusing delivery of defective vehicles. That's when Tesla starts to feel it in the pocketbook and starts making QC a priority. As long as you reward Tesla for putting out a bad product, why should they change?
Super_Popular
Well-Known Member
I was thinking about you today, are you still driving your P85? or have you sold it or upgraded?
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
As a very old paratrooper, I had no idea. Google knew ;-)
But then I noticed your address and thought of Boeing, and it seemed to make sense.
SocalMS
Banned
I agree.
The problem is that by the time you've stepped into their showroom to take delivery, you've already paid for the car (via loan doc, wire transfer etc..)
So basically, you're NOT taking delivery on a car you've already paid for....
Lose Lose situation...
I hope Tesla starts improving their trim quality and not just focus on battery and the auto-pilot...
If this were true the SC would properly test the car before delivery and work with the DS to provide the best delivery experience. From the stories in here and personal experience they do not.
Also from my experience(talks to the SC) it is up to us to detect and report issues. I am currently not sure if they do more than reported by us, unless there is service bulletin out.
Unless they're dropping them off the side of the truck, rather than rolling them down the ramps, there's no reason for this to be true.
N5329K
Active Member
It's hangar. But I wonder if these persistent QC issues are the NUMMI Curse? Back then, GM would push cars off the line that couldn't even start, much less drive away. They had teams out in the parking lot with tools and parts correcting the mistakes the Unstoppable Line created. Volume was everything.
Not a good sign for Model 3, and it's getting late.
Robin
I wondered who would be the first spelling troll... My phone kept changing hangar to hanger...
But I digrass.
*See what I did there* =p
But I digrass.
*See what I did there* =p
Zaphod
Galaxy President (former)
Ideally, yes. But most service centers are overworked and under-staffed and only so much they can do.
bktiger86
Member
I totally know what you mean. I have a 75 Model S 2017 model. So far with only 800 miles I have these issues:
1. folding mirrors (fixed)
2. Rear doors make a click noise when opening (not fixed)
3. Passenger side leather seats have poor leather quality and the glove box area (not fixed - but they have already reorder the chair and glove box for me
4. A rattling noise near the rear seats (not fixed)
Kenriko
Former Vendor
The problem is if you refuse delivery they will happily add it as an inventory car for some sucker who is less picky to pick up. For the really bad ones they either use them as loaners and then sell them at a discount with 5-10k miles on them or offload them to third party dealers.
I have a 2017 S90D with 1000 Miles on it. Picked Up Feb 11th.
Several Issues so far. Very similar to others. Quality control is very poor. None of these first-day issues were present on our 2014 S85. In fact In over 20k miles on the S85 we have not once went to service.
1. Front Seats already showing very bad wrinkling. Black Perf Leather. New seat on order. Not fixed yet.
2. Driver side rear view mirror would not fold out. Fixed on 2nd service visit. Apparently replaced entirely.
3. Front Bumper Lower Intake trim was not aligned correctly, bowing and with gaps. Fixed on first service visit however service center broke my left/right ultrasonic sensor clips and did not reinstall the rubber boots properly. I had to show them on how to properly re-install the boots. They seem swamped and do not have the time to pay attention.
4. Sunroof does not always open in hot weather. Waiting to see this will resolve itself. We'll see.
5. Clunk sound from air suspension on rebound when going over speed bumps. This is not how our 2014 S85 sounds with air suspension.
6. Alignment was off and pulling to the left. Toe in was fixed on first service visit and now rides true.
All in all not major but collectively the time spent fixing a brand new car is unacceptable. I concur with those above who said the factory is explicitly off-loading their quality control to service centers. I can only imagine how slammed Tesla workers will be when Model 3 production begins.
Several Issues so far. Very similar to others. Quality control is very poor. None of these first-day issues were present on our 2014 S85. In fact In over 20k miles on the S85 we have not once went to service.
1. Front Seats already showing very bad wrinkling. Black Perf Leather. New seat on order. Not fixed yet.
2. Driver side rear view mirror would not fold out. Fixed on 2nd service visit. Apparently replaced entirely.
3. Front Bumper Lower Intake trim was not aligned correctly, bowing and with gaps. Fixed on first service visit however service center broke my left/right ultrasonic sensor clips and did not reinstall the rubber boots properly. I had to show them on how to properly re-install the boots. They seem swamped and do not have the time to pay attention.
4. Sunroof does not always open in hot weather. Waiting to see this will resolve itself. We'll see.
5. Clunk sound from air suspension on rebound when going over speed bumps. This is not how our 2014 S85 sounds with air suspension.
6. Alignment was off and pulling to the left. Toe in was fixed on first service visit and now rides true.
All in all not major but collectively the time spent fixing a brand new car is unacceptable. I concur with those above who said the factory is explicitly off-loading their quality control to service centers. I can only imagine how slammed Tesla workers will be when Model 3 production begins.
I'm going to have to go with the "factory alignments really stink!" thesis, perhaps even due to some bad components. From what little about it I understand, alignment "goes out" due to worn components (bushings, etc), loosened adjusters or bent or damaged components. I would think that a professional delivery driver would know how to onload/offload cars without damaging them; seems it would take quite a bit of impact to bend suspension components.
Problem is with our suspensions it doesn't take much, (I personally disassembled mine on the P85 and showed the SC the bent control arm). They have two front lower control arms and the front link doesn't take much to bend. The SC even said small potholes have bent the front (front of the two) control arm ball joints on a fairly common basis. Bending the front causes both a toe and a caster issue.
So it's hard to say, could also be a mentalurgy problem. The BS thing is to remove the rear front lower control arm requires dropping the battery, as the chassis mounting bolt is put in backwards as to not puncture the battery in a front end collision. Can't back out the bolt and get it past the battery.
The parts were cheap (relatively @ $150 or so per arm) the labor however is out of control with having to remove the battery.
So it's hard to say, could also be a mentalurgy problem. The BS thing is to remove the rear front lower control arm requires dropping the battery, as the chassis mounting bolt is put in backwards as to not puncture the battery in a front end collision. Can't back out the bolt and get it past the battery.
The parts were cheap (relatively @ $150 or so per arm) the labor however is out of control with having to remove the battery.
I still have it! I'm at 60,000 miles and recently had it in service because of a bug in my tail light, noisy rear hatch struts, and whirring road noise coming from the tires. They replaced the infested tail light and hatch struts, my whirring tires were apparently due to "scalloping". Alignment was re-done but according to service none of the parameters that normally lead to odd tire wear were that far off. They did note that my castor had changed by an unusual amount, and corrected it. They seemed surprised by that, as was I because I know nothing about those things! lol
We have a Model 3 on order and hope that goes well. I won't be looking at a new Model S until it's properly redesigned. While Tesla has added a lot of things to it, it's still basically the same first generation design that it rolled out in 2012 with many of the same flaws and shortcomings. It needs a complete do-over.
I suspect and would hope that if you refuse delivery over QC issues, Tesla will offer to either build you a new car or refund your money.
