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Decoding Tesla Model S VINs

Discussion in 'Model S: Ordering, Production, Delivery' started by Thread Summary, Feb 4, 2012.

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  1. engle

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    #21 engle, Mar 16, 2012
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    Two Model S "Beta Prototype" Signatures in Pearl White and Signature Red both finished assembly at the Fremont factory on Thursday, 3/15/2012. This is according to George Blankenship himself during a videotaped interview I conducted in the Santana Row store on Friday afternoon.

    They are #43 (Pearl White) and #44 (Sig Red). Their VINs are:

    5YJSB1A23C1B00043
    5YJSB1A25C1B00044


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    Later that night, I asked the Model S (and X) Product Manager how many Betas they plan to build before they start producing Release Candidates. He said he knows but can't release that info to us at this time.
     
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    Performance vin

    Just curious. Will the performance vin have a different sequence? It's sort of a different engine.
     
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    5YJSB1A22C1B00048
    Thanks.
     
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    5YJSA1DP8CFF00001

    Founders' Series #1 Performance version, 85 kWh battery

    P in digit 8 for Performance?
    F in digit 11 for Fremont?
     
  6. NigelM

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    VIN #29 - Silver Beta:

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    5YJSB1A29C1B00029
     
  7. dsm363

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    Someone mentioned this before but is the F maybe for 'Founders Series'? Fremont makes sense too. The European versions will still be built in Fremont I believe so they probably don't need a designation for that but maybe they have plans to build a European factory many years down the road.


    Ah, didn't see there was a F in 11th and 12th spot. Maybe it's both Fremont then Founders series.
     
  8. AnOutsider

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    looks like the last 5 digits are used to denote the car number in the run. So that means for normal production cars it'll top out at 99,999? If so, I suppose they'll just change whatever character precedes the 5 digits to move onto a new series?
     
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    Refer to the first post of the thread. Digit 8 is the motor type, Digit 11 is the plant location, Digits 12-17 are the serial number. So like the Roadster, the F in digit 12 is for Founders' Series. (The Betas have a B in that position.)
    If it's like the Roadster, the regular production run cars (starting with the Signature cars) will have a 0 in that location (until they reach 100K units, I guess).
     
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    #30 TEG, Jun 7, 2012
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    Something like:

    5YJ - Tesla manufacturer string for USA made cars
    5YJSA - Model S Sedan=SA
    5YJSA1 - Region code 1=North America
    5YJSA1D - Restraint system type D (lots of seat-belts & air-bags)
    5YJSA1DP - P=Performance Motor type
    5YJSA1DP? - Check digit (checksum calculated from all other digits)
    5YJSA1DP?C - C=2012
    5YJSA1DP?CF - Factory F=Fremont
     
  11. Robert.Boston

    Robert.Boston Model S VIN P01536

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    Digit 10 gives the model year (C=2012), so until Tesla is producing 100,000 Model Ss per year, running out of numbers isn't an issue.
     
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    Interesting. I assume it's always a single digit, so do they roll them? i.e. in 36 years we'll be back to C?
     
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    Maybe if the Russians take over. Otherwise it'll be in 26 years. :wink:
     
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    Thirty-six would make sense (26 letters plus ten numbers) but I, O, and Q are not allowed in VINs (to avoid confusion with 1 and 0) and the model year further omits U, Z, and 0. So the model year digit recycles every 30 years.

    Here, just read the wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_Identification_Number#Model_year_encoding
     
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    Having only 30 characters also prevents the problem of having 2005 correspond with a digit that is not 5.
     
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    Anyone get VIN's from the test cars this weekend? I haven't seen it mentioned in any of the other threads...
     
  17. gg_got_a_tesla

    gg_got_a_tesla Model S: VIN P65513, Model 3 Res Holder

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    Hmm... good question. I don't think any of us thought about it - I haven't seen any pics. Also, given the way the drives were setup, it was not feasible to stop and take a pic that close to the car.

    Maybe the folks going to LA might remember to do this if they can.
     
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    #38 gg_got_a_tesla, Jun 25, 2012
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    Looks like that to me.
     
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