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Quite! But go through the thread I linked to. Lots of us have found it to be the case.That’s about 322km, Tesla claims in the vest conditions you can get 547km out of the performance, that’s seems kinda off.
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Quite! But go through the thread I linked to. Lots of us have found it to be the case.That’s about 322km, Tesla claims in the vest conditions you can get 547km out of the performance, that’s seems kinda off.
That’s about 322km, Tesla claims in the vest conditions you can get 547km out of the performance, that’s seems kinda off.
3. A second hand Long range or performance model 3. This option is more expensive than the 1st gen model S, but is cheaper than the new 2022 models of these cars. The only issue with this option is that I can’t seem to get a clear answer for what year Tesla added the heat pump to the model 3.
Nothing more than what I said i.e. given the choice of a 2-3 year old Performance vs new LR for the same price I would take the new LR every time. The difference in real world performance is minimal, especially if you opt for Accel boost. The new cars also have quite a few improvements as you know, plus a longer warranty.i know I’ll definitely use EAP or FSD. So I’m not questioning that. What are your reasons for not buying a 2/3 yr old M3 ?
Yeah, I simply don't think the P version is worth the extra cost over the LR and cost appeared to be an important factor for the OP. The P is quicker off the line if going full gas and that's about it. There's track mode of course, so that could be a factor if planning to do track days. If not, then I would have thought a brand spanking new LR vs a well used P is a no-brainer.Not sure why @Peteski says this but I’m assuming it’s pretty much negligible performance difference (particularly.after boost) and massive range difference. The secret shame is the M3P is a real world range of 200 miles max. For some reason some LR owners on here tend not to believe this but there’s a thread here that makes it pretty plain. Confirmed again for me yesterday by getting in at Heathrow yesterday and getting a Nav-predicted 143 miles from 74%.
Tried it on the test drive I did with my dad, made me want it even more.Nothing more than what I said i.e. given the choice of a 2-3 year old Performance vs new LR for the same price I would take the new LR every time. The difference in real world performance is minimal, especially if you opt for Accel boost. The new cars also have quite a few improvements as you know, plus a longer warranty.
Have you actually tested EAP/FSD? If not then I strongly suggest you try it before buying.
A 250km difference is very big, I’d be thinking they are being driven in colder conditions. Im aware that WLTP isn’t accurate to real world, that number is in the best conditions possible, which is like rare lol. I generally take off 50km or worst case scveario 100km from the rating, but I wouldn’t expect a 250km difference.Quite! But go through the thread I linked to. Lots of us have found it to be the case.
I’ll check out the threadQuite! But go through the thread I linked to. Lots of us have found it to be the case.
I’ve read the first 2 pages and it seems people get very different results from 150-270 miles (241km-435km) depending on whether it’s LR or P, which year of those two they got, how they drive, whether they do one long trip or multiple small trips, the weather and the wheels. But the general gist I got is if you have a home charger you’ll be ok. Once I can get over 240km on a daily basis I’ll be fine, it’s really rare that’s I have to travel anymore than 80-100 km in one day with my current lifestyle.Quite! But go through the thread I linked to. Lots of us have found it to be the case.
i know I’ll definitely use EAP or FSD. So I’m not questioning that. What are your reasons for not buying a 2/3 yr old M3 ?
Have you actually tested EAP/FSD? If not then I strongly suggest you try it before buying.
Tried it on the test drive I did with my dad, made me want it even more.
A brand new model 3 I will most likely go for either a long range or performance model 3. But price is an issue here
A second hand 1st gen model S
I have test drove a model 3 Performance and I do like the performance it gives
I don't have experience of a 3 as we're a one car family of five + dog, but we recently replaced our 2017 S 90D with a new Y LR. Loved the S, but do not miss it at all as the Y just does almost everything better.... much better tech and much better range/charging.
I'm in agreement. t have just sold my 2019 MS 100D for the same reasons and am waiting (trying to be patient) for my MYLR. I had three great years with the MS, no issues at a all apart from the yellow screen border, but the worry about expensive future repairs and also the tech and range improvements in newer cars made up my mind to change.I don't have experience of a 3 as we're a one car family of five + dog, but we recently replaced our 2017 S 90D with a new Y LR. Loved the S, but do not miss it at all as the Y just does almost everything better and has the added benefit of not giving me heart palpitations about out of warranty repair costs. The S was a little smoother (though I twice had to have the air suspension fixed), but the Y is so much more responsive, less barge-like, has much better tech and much better range/charging.
I’m confident that people are people! EVs will be just like other cars and treated the same way. It’s not turning into a numbers game … people still “love” their cars … they attach qualities to brands that don’t really exist … they customise appearance and function… they argue with others over which is better.I know it's probably coming but if EVs end up turning cars into just a love for charging speeds and MCU processors its a sad day, and all the naysers would be proved right, EVs are just another 'white goods' like the latest Bosch washing machine and its super efficient wash cycle and silent mode ....swapping a S for a Y...I cannot help think of this everytime I see a Y, which is quite often now, but at least when you are in the car you cannot see its profile .