Eastern Canada Superchargers

[mrElbe]

Amazing what passed for journalism these days.

Yes, investigative journalism is dead. All these guys and gals do is scour the Internet and take it as verbatim truth.

 

[wayner]

Yes, investigative journalism is dead. All these guys and gals do is scour the Internet and take it as verbatim truth.

Or multiple outlets, in this case the National Post, CBC and CTV, post a newswire story to their web sites. A waste of storage space since it is the same article in three places.

 

[itshukokay]

Has anyone found any construction at Strathroy, ON? Going to rely on this one a lot.

 

[MarcoRP]

If we'd found something, we would post it. I don't think there has been anything.

 

[MarcoRP]

There was this new charging location found last night in Scarborough at Toronto Pan Am Sport Centre Toronto Pan Am Sport Centre | Toronto, ON | Electric Car Charging Station | PlugShare with 20 Tesla HPWCs and 10 J1772s. I wouldn't be surprised at finding a Supercharger here.

 

[Drone Flyer]

There was this new charging location found last night in Scarborough at Toronto Pan Am Sport Centre Toronto Pan Am Sport Centre | Toronto, ON | Electric Car Charging Station | PlugShare with 20 Tesla HPWCs and 10 J1772s. I wouldn't be surprised at finding a Supercharger here.

Why 20 of them? Seems such a waste. The location is not ideal either. Not many owners would have a need to go there. in my opinion, a shopping mall would have been better but then again, ICING could be an issue.

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

Why 20 of them? Seems such a waste. The location is not ideal either. Not many owners would have a need to go there. in my opinion, a shopping mall would have been better but then again, ICING could be an issue.

It's just obscene to have so much destination charging available at a destination.

Or maybe they just accidentally added zeroes.

 

[rypalmer]

Why 20 of them? Seems such a waste. The location is not ideal either. Not many owners would have a need to go there. in my opinion, a shopping mall would have been better but then again, ICING could be an issue.

I'd rather go to the gym than go to the mall. I can go to the gym any day of the week; the same doesn't apply to the mall. Groceries are a different story.

I'd be interested to see the load sharing strategy involved at this station. There's no way this station is equipped to pull 1900 amps. The incremental costs of installing 20 Wall Connectors instead of 10 is probably not that much, IMO, so doubling up was pretty nice to see. Most cars won't pull more than 48 anyway.

 

[MarcoRP]

The HPWC speed goes at 80 Amps while the J1772s go at 32 Amps

 

[sakimano]

Why 20 of them? Seems such a waste. The location is not ideal either. Not many owners would have a need to go there. in my opinion, a shopping mall would have been better but then again, ICING could be an issue.

especially when there's a 20 station tesla supercharger about to be built in Scarborough...

 

[rypalmer]

The HPWC speed goes at 80 Amps while the J1772s go at 32 Amps

We realize.. but are they HPWCs set up to load share.. that would be the smart thing to do. Pretty wasteful to have a dedicated 100A circuit breaker for each HPWC given the vast majority of post-refresh vehicles are equipped to do 48A.

 

[wayner]

The location isn't that bad. It is a stone's throw from the 401 and there are a few eating spots within a few hundred meters. And you would get folks coming from all over for swim meets at that location. But twenty HPWCs is overkill for one location.

In terms of the Scarborough SC I would hope to see it as part of the Scarborough City Centre complex maybe near the Best Buy store or Baton Rouge that is across Progress Ave from the mall.

 

[wayner]

It is good to see all of these dots turning from grey to red on the map. How many are left that are still under construction in Ontario - three? Owen Sound, Etobicoke and Hamilton? Or did I miss some?

 

[MarcoRP]

No you got all of them

 

[MarcoRP]

Cambridge and Markham Supercharger now on PlugShare

 

[mknox]

The HPWC speed goes at 80 Amps while the J1772s go at 32 Amps

Do these HPWC's go to 80 amps? I find it very rare to find any that are set up for 80 amps... 40 amps tops is what I usually see.

 

[rypalmer]

Do these HPWC's go to 80 amps? I find it very rare to find any that are set up for 80 amps... 40 amps tops is what I usually see.

I don't see any dedicated disconnects connected to these either.

 

[wayner]

I don't see any dedicated disconnects connected to these either.

Now that you mention it - I don't know that I remember seeing this at other public HPWCs that I have charged at - like at hotels. Does the electrical code say that every charger has to have a dedicated disconnect? Or are they chargers above a certain power or amperage capacity?

 

[rypalmer]

Or are they chargers above a certain power or amperage capacity?

Yes and it varies by jurisdiction. I believe on PEI anything over a 60A breaker requires a disconnect within X feet, but in Ontario it's anything over 50A.. honestly I can't remember the details. Enforcement of this rule seems pretty inconsistent too. I wish they'd do away with it entirely unless there was some evidence it is actually needed. We need to drive down the cost of all forms of charging.

 

[vandacca]

I thought it was 60A in Ontario too. I have a 60A line to my HWPC and they installed a emergency cut-off switch. Last week, after 18 months of use, the cut-off switch failed.

Turns out that there was too much plastic surrounding a metal spring-loaded plate, preventing the spring to push the plate to make a good contact. The plate was blackened (due to arching) which eventually built up too much carbon and prevented current flow.