AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Because the point of these nag systems is to make sure you're paying attention. Every other company offering similar L2 systems (Ford, GM, etc.) uses eye tracking _exclusively_. And it works. Nobody complains about it. It's a better, more reliable system than "just right, not too hard" tugs on the steering wheel.
Sure. The tug system sucks. I’ve said it many times.
I was just saying that eyes on the road may not be good enough. Your claim was that if eye tracking worked they would just do that…evidence being that other manufacturers do it…which is…not evidence of anything.
But it’s certainly possible Tesla could enforce hands on the wheel without the tugs! They just don’t seem to have tried. (It would be easy for a human, is the evidence.) They actually may already do it, partially - not sure…with torque as a backup when there is uncertainty. Would have to experiment - I don’t think they do, but it is possible.
The torque requirement is silly. Just check my hands are on the wheel (note that neither hands nor wheel can be seen - but of course that is not needed). No additional hardware required!
Anyway the discussion was whether the cameras can do eye tracking. You seemed to think not. There is a lot of evidence they do, with limitations. Having horrible wheel torque requirements is not related, unfortunately.
Fortunately with attention monitoring it can actually be pretty hit and miss and the system could still be decent (a lot more forgiving than wipers and driving in that regard)!
I think on the freeway eyes only might be ok most of the time. Usually there is a little time to react.Every other company offering similar L2 systems (Ford, GM, etc.) uses eye tracking _exclusively_.
However, for the highly flawed City Streets product, hands on might be a good idea which other manufacturers haven’t had to deal with just yet. Sometimes there is very very little time to react. Hands on is good.
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