ZenRockGarden
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The difference is no one had ever landed rockets on drone ships - there were not fleets of experts on the topic to ignore and fire while insisting you'd figure it out with free-speech-absolutism
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Elon & Twitter
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The difference is no one had ever landed rockets on drone ships - there were not fleets of experts on the topic to ignore and fire while insisting you'd figure it out with free-speech-absolutism
ElectricIAC
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Sure, but the way to do this is to first develop a way to automate it, then eliminate the jobs of the people who are doing it manually. Not the other way around.
Amazon is still having a lot of issues with fake listings. 4 BILLION of them just last year to be exact. And they've been at this for a long time. Amazon reports blocking 4 billion counterfeit listings in 2021
I'm not claiming to have invented anything. merely saying Elon and Twitter are well aware of what can be done. And I am also saying it is far too early to assume they are out of ideas and don't have additional plans.
JRP3
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Landing rockets on drone ships is far easier than trying to control human behavior.
ZenRockGarden
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I think blocking 4 billion attempted fake listings might be evidence that Amazon DOES know how to detect it with software.
When Elon posts this kind of thing it is always dumb, but he can't help himself.
But I am not sure the dumb stuff he posts is a good guide to his business plans.
Oh, I'm not arguing against his sales being for cash for Twitter in some form, just wondering if we knew what the final mix of funds was.
I would be a little surprised if it was just due to interest given how depressed the stock price currently is. Unless it's a lot of interest.
I agree success isn't certain, I just don't expect Elon to throw in the towel in round 1.
And success is relative, after a while, close enough is good enough.
JRP3
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ElectricIAC
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I’ll be worried when he starts acting like a fuddy-duddy.
What? How does one get a new CC on a whim?
It is best to accept Elon for what he is, take the good with the bad, and expect some bad.
When dealing with the bad, a sense of humour, and a long term view definitely help.
Anyone expecting Elon to change, and to do what they want him to do, is always going to end up very disappointed.,
That gets expensive fast for a couple of lols. Trolls will do it a few times, then give up.
ZenRockGarden
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Phone numbers, apple Ids, credit cars and vastly more things are all rentable on the internet at very affordable prices if you're willing to be involved with bad actors.
I'm telling you this is an huge existing industry. Facebook and Apple are probably the best experts at it and have among the cleanest ecosystems. Even they are not perfect, and it takes cubic millions of dollars to constantly fight back the new hacking angles and tactics.
Thinking you're just gonna write a bit of code and/or throw some AI at the problem is incredibly naive
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The twitter account TeslaReal impersonating Tesla twitter account is still not suspended more that 3.5 hrs after the tweet was posted. So it seems any corrective action to suspend impersonating accounts is manual at this point. It is unbelievable that Elon decided to roll out paid verification with out having any automation to detect attempts to impersonation. I find it in-excusable that there is no automation that would put a hold for manual review, if a new or an existing twitter account changes the display name to that of an existing verified account
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We also need to consider what a troll / scammer can potentially gain, especially if new account appears the bottom of any topic and if "topic filters" are implemented.
To make money they need to be running a scam, if their credit card details can be used to uncover their real identify that is useful for law enforcement.
Any extra data that can be captured is useful for law enforcement.
It is hard for a scammer to make money on Twitter while doing things that are 100% legal.
It is hard for a single troll to move the needle if they are quickly unmasked.
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