jabloomf1230
Minister of Silly Walks
Fair and balanced? Just like MSM Fox News from 2017?
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Elon & Twitter
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Big Tech is decidedly already right wing. Even studies on Twitter show that amplification of right wing posts exceeded liberal posts.
Seems that Sacks and other conservatives were terrified that Twitter was trending towards actual democracy.
Everything is relative I guess. But the Thiels and Sacks are definitely in the minority in Silicon Valley.
Daniel in SD
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Amplification by the algorithms I believe. However I'm sure Twitter's human judgement was biased against the right. Not necessarily because their policies were applied unevenly but because the policies themselves contradicted right wing opinion (e.g. COVID misinformation policy, misgendering)
Daniel in SD
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Seems bad. Hopefully neither Weiss nor Taibbi clicked the direct messages button. The screen is watermarked showing it's logged in as Ella Irwin, the new head of trust and safety (who presumably has full access).
AlanSubie4Life
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Yeah seems like a non-issue in that case. Thread seems to have gotten a little carried away. You have to assume these people know the basic rules at least and will follow them. May not be true but that is the baseline assumption.
ZenRockGarden
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During that time he has demanded "transparency" while not only giving none, but presenting a series of self-contradictory claims that he would make "Free speech absolutism" allowing any speech that didn't violate federal law.... err wait, not actually that, but "free reach" where twitter downranks and suppresses bad stuff but still claims that speech is "free", but wait doing EXACTLY that at Twitter 1.0 is now what they're against, and they'll use a blue-ribbon panel of experts to establish standards for conduct... err wait that's been abandoned since Elon's mad at various people, so um.... yeah the new Twitter 2.0 will be doing.... something... using someone's standards... with maybe some free-ish speech, and maybe downranking/no-free-reach unless maybe doing that is bad, with a non-existent review panel...
Oh hell let's confess - Twitter 2.0 will work almost exactly like Twitter 1.0 did, but with Elon making the political bias decisions. the end
ZenRockGarden
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Elon has mostly blurted out inconsistent things he DOESNT do. "Free Speech Absolutism" never happened, probably never was even considered. Downranking was going to be the amazing innovation, except now it's what was wrong at Twitter 1.0 so instead of adding it, they'd seemingly be removing what they said they'd add under the 'freedom of speech not reach" flag.. Anyone remember that panel of experts to decide a well reasoned set of unbiased rules of conduct which would make all major reinstatement decisions? Oops - abandoned and reinstatements are done personally by Elon. Blanket amnesty! Oops no it's not blanket it's just for some unknown subset of people picked to be mostly likely to include Elon's friends.... on and on it goes
I would love it if Elon actually had a well thought out plan for Twitter. That idea to have an expert posting standards panel with published criteria sounded promising, but as best I can tell it's abandoned. Serious work to stamp out mis-information would be exciting - however Elon seems mostly oriented the opposite direction other than discovering Twitter had existing community-notes mechanisms he likes to take credit for and randomly retweeting lies about Pelosi's husband.
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Favguy
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The best ideas often don't prevail, it's usually the most persuasive that do, even when they're bad.
very high level meta frog memes. OK.
The public isn’t getting information from this. It’s only getting its bandwidth jammed with more squid ink and white noise.
Nothing stated shows anything about it being "fair and balanced" going forward. Just bc Elon says it doesn't make it true.
Find any questionable tweet or account. Now think how a right-leaning person would treat it and a left-leaning person. There are no neutral or unbiased people. Everyone has bias.
One of the examples last night came from November 21, 2022. Gee, who owned Twitter then?
Hackers Convinced Twitter Employee to Help Them Hijack Accounts
After a wave of account takeovers, screenshots of an internal Twitter user administration tool are being shared in the hacking underground.
www.vice.com
Anyway, we knew all this stuff two and a half years ago.
Elon desperately wants there to be a controversy here. The two file drops so far have been roundly roasted by people who can read.
He doesn't seem very focused on the mission anymore, tbh.
mach-edriver
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"My father always wanted to be the corpse at every funeral, the bride at every wedding and the baby at every christening."
Alice Roosevelt Longworth
This fairly encapsulates Twitter Musk.
Alice Roosevelt Longworth
This fairly encapsulates Twitter Musk.
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
This chart comparison clearly illustrates the strong influence the Twitter saga has had upon TSLA when compared to AMZN over the past year.
TSLA - Black
AMZN - Green
Hopefully this comprehensively demonstrates once and for all just how the Twitter deal has negatively affected TSLA in a markedly different way than the Macro environment's effect upon both of these stocks.
I had no idea the Twitter purchase had also affected AMZN in such a similar way.
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TSLA - Black
AMZN - Green
Hopefully this comprehensively demonstrates once and for all just how the Twitter deal has negatively affected TSLA in a markedly different way than the Macro environment's effect upon both of these stocks.
I had no idea the Twitter purchase had also affected AMZN in such a similar way.
/s
I had no idea the Twitter purchase had also affected AMZN in such a similar way.
/s
At least you had the /s.
Replace AMZN with ENPH and see what you get
We all know what they say about statistics.
By a diverse content moderation panel no doubt.
Well he did open source the algorithms that he promised to do when he 1st made the offer for Twitter. Oh snap!
Define far left.
Actually Elon called San Francisco far left last night and SV as centrist. He actually used the chart that shows political donations by tech companies which shows Twitter employees (not executives) at 98% Democratic donations and of course ignored that Tesla was 94%. Ok so why does the right always use San Francisco as the picture of far left. I have one idea. Whats yours?
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
Yes, when making comparisons it is always a good idea to compare stocks that are in as different a league as possible.At least you had the /s.
Replace AMZN with ENPH and see what you get
We all know what they say about statistics.
Here's a comparison with a few more closely related charts added. (you CAN tell that they are related, can't you?)
TSLA-black
AMZN-green
SPX-orange
NDX-blue
MSFT-pink
META-violet
There seems to be a trend here... though Facebook seems to have been hit harder by the Twitter purchase than were the others.
I guess that TSLA was lucky to have fared so well.
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