So the big reveal from the Twitter Files is that Twitter should have ignored their terms of service and allowed Trump to continue his election misinformation and coup against the US Government.
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Elon & Twitter
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I'd like to see Elon suspended from Twitter for promoting violence.
ZenRockGarden
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Perhaps Elon should put that up for a vote.
I think there is a big difference between disagreeing with Elon’s purchase of Twitter and the pure hate we’re seeing for him here on TMC.
I am incredibly appreciative of all Elon Musk has done and is still doing. He seems to be speaking up for so many of us just about to give up. We used to shout about injustice to no one's ears, but today we have a voice. He has given so many people power, and I am grateful for this guy and his cause. 
Some points about what worries me about Elon & Twitter, not in order:
In the end, I hope Tesla and Tesla's board will never let Elon be the chaotic dictator he's at Twitter.
- the circle of yesmen and conservative or libertarian folks that speaok to Elon. He wishes to be politically neutral, he is not
- every philosophy/social science books published since the '60 asserts that there is no "political neutrality". In a way, everything you do is political: of course, some words/actions more than others. So not only Elon is not practically political, he theoretically can't be.
- never seen Elon so inconsistent. "Sunlight is the best disinfectant!", "Free speech!", ***leaking internal mails and DMs and chats from Twitter emplyers years ago and then today's email about suing employees violating NDAs. I could even agree with the second part, but not if you're the first violating that privacy. He decides everything.
- Again, this is the center of it all: he decides everything. He decides what Twitter is what is not, what free speech is and what is not. No debate, no arguments, just his decision, on a whim.
- Never seen Elon so inconsistent with people: first Yoel is a good guy in Trust and Safety, then he throws him under the bus with allegations, 12-years old quotes, etc.
In the end, I hope Tesla and Tesla's board will never let Elon be the chaotic dictator he's at Twitter.
There is no inconsistency, the NDA limits what employees can leak to the public, it doesn't mean the company itself cannot release internal information to the public, that's the whole premise behind the concept of company PR.
As for Elon Musk decides everything, well duh, he paid tens of billions for it, of course he gets to decide everything. Musk haters cheered repeatedly for the court to force him to pay billions for twitter, now you guys find it hard to swallow that he gets to decide everything inside the company he paid billions for? Tough.
Simple, one is secret practice without appeal which can and has been misused, the other is/will be a transparent process where people know what happened to them and can appeal the decision.
Basically the difference between a Chinese prison and a US prison, both incarcerates people but it's the process that makes one evil, the other not so.
Favguy
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For crying out loud, will it ever end? I'm beginning to think the board should just throw him out of Tesla altogether, he's such a toxic risk to the company now.
If they remove him as CEO and don’t leave him as Chief Product Officer then he loses his 2018 compensation package. That’s billions of dollars. That would be a huge fightFor crying out loud, will it ever end? I'm beginning to think the board should just throw him out of Tesla altogether, he's such a toxic risk to the company now.
My God. He's nearly ready to stop chanting "lock her up".
Give him that compensation package and be done with him then. This man is not well.
I'm not saying that's illegal, I'm saying that's inconsistent with his own motto.
Musk long ago entered the political/moral/ethical realm with his own "free speech absolutism".
You can't really be a champion of free speech and transparency, so much you actively leak internal communication, and then punish/sue people who do the exact same thing.
Everything you do and say while on the clock are considered to be company property and have not violated any privacy of individuals as the company can do whatever it wants with its property. Anything you know after signing of a NDA are also considered company property and you can be sued for giving it away without permission.
You will be notified why your tweet is not amplified and how to appeal. So essentially the "shadow" part of banning is gone.
Jack Dorsey told Congress under oath Twitter was not shadow-banning
Dorsey appeared before the House Energy and Commerce Committee on September 2018 to discuss “Transparency and Accountability.”
www.google.com
Elon has done a great job at Tesla, but being CEO of the company with the world’s most important mission and >100,000 employees is not a part-time job! Promote him to Chief Product Officer (he would like that job more anyway!) and have another talented person take over the role of chief executive officer. I would love someone like Satya Nadella running Tesla.
Besides that I hope he just focuses on SpaceX! Focus your time on getting humans to Mars, that would be humanity’s greatest achievement since the dawn of mankind! And a much more admirable goal than “absolute free speech” (not even a good thing!)
Besides that I hope he just focuses on SpaceX! Focus your time on getting humans to Mars, that would be humanity’s greatest achievement since the dawn of mankind! And a much more admirable goal than “absolute free speech” (not even a good thing!)
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