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Even this Volt owner knows...

scaesare

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Mar 14, 2013
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... that he's not driving an EV:

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(seen on my commute to work this morning. All intended in good fun...)
 
... that he's not driving an EV:

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(seen on my commute to work this morning. All intended in good fun...)
Your comments make no sense. Everyone I talk to about BEVs or driving a Volt on the battery alone bring up coal produced electricity. And they think the Tesla being all electric can only run on coal.
 

ItsNotAboutTheMoney

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Jul 12, 2012
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They're from a coal-producing area and are happy to be powered by coal.

The first Volt I saw was on a snowy day in my (small) city, the car was, I think, from PA, and had a sticker on the rear that said "Powered By Coal".

As scottf says, your comment makes no sense. If anything they _are_ identifying with it being an EV. But please, let's not start _that_ debate again.
 

Oil4AsphaultOnly

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Since electric cars are so efficient (as are large coal power plants presumably) I'd be curious to know just how much coal is needed to propel a Volt or a Model S... eg. x miles per lump of coal :tongue:

I actually did this calculation last year: ... How Much Was Consumed? - fan of the underdog | Seeking Alpha

Essentially: 2000 lbs of coal = 2460 KWh = 7257 (assuming 2.95 miles/kwh) ... ~3.6285 miles per pound of coal.
 
I actually did this calculation last year: ... How Much Was Consumed? - fan of the underdog | Seeking Alpha

Essentially: 2000 lbs of coal = 2460 KWh = 7257 (assuming 2.95 miles/kwh) ... ~3.6285 miles per pound of coal.

That's funny that we were posting at the same time. Using my numbers (5,500 miles/2,000 lbs), I get 2.75 miles per pound of coal, which is about 25% fewer miles than your calculation. Did you happen to take into account transmission and charger losses? I calculated about 10% for each, I think.
 

Oil4AsphaultOnly

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Mar 14, 2015
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That's funny that we were posting at the same time. Using my numbers (5,500 miles/2,000 lbs), I get 2.75 miles per pound of coal, which is about 25% fewer miles than your calculation. Did you happen to take into account transmission and charger losses? I calculated about 10% for each, I think.

Nope, didn't factor in either losses, because they're dependent on distance to the power plant and the 2.95 miles/kwh was fairly pessimistic anyway (even more so for the volt. With our two numbers, Lex has a range band that (s)he can play with.
 

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